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Ugly Ugly bug with kyoubai bidding

quangntenemy

Avatar: 14557 2011-10-31 11:07:55 -0400
59

[WeChall]

Level 69 Troll

:ronpaul: :****ing sucks:

Has anyone noticed this?

If you set a maximum bid and another player bids that same amount he will outbid you.

I encountered it so many time.

For example:

http://www.forumwarz.com/auctions/show/18709 (my max bid was 10,000)

http://www.forumwarz.com/auctions/show/17249 (200,000)

TUBSWEETIE

Avatar: 3450 2011-07-31 00:45:06 -0400
28

[And The Banned Pla-
yed On
]

Level 37 Troll

MY MEMORY IS THAT OF A SMALL GRAPE

The first link shows a nasty glitch. That’s really unfair.

What exactly is the second link?

quangntenemy

Avatar: 14557 2011-10-31 11:07:55 -0400
59

[WeChall]

Level 69 Troll

:ronpaul: :****ing sucks:

TUBSWEETIE Posted:

The first link shows a nasty glitch. That’s really unfair.

What exactly is the second link?

I got outbid with the same amount as my maximum bid. 10,000 and 200,000 in the 2 links.

MC Banhammer

Avatar: 1887 2011-07-31 00:40:59 -0400
36

[Good Omens]

Level 69 Troll

Trying to create drama to drum up the ratings by any means necessary!

Did you report it in the bug tool?

TUBSWEETIE

Avatar: 3450 2011-07-31 00:45:06 -0400
28

[And The Banned Pla-
yed On
]

Level 37 Troll

MY MEMORY IS THAT OF A SMALL GRAPE

quangntenemy Posted:

I got outbid with the same amount as my maximum bid. 10,000 and 200,000 in the 2 links.

I still don’t follow in the second link. Claude frog is winning and there’s no identical bids listed. Only one 200k bid showing.

the first link is totally right and that’s a serious issue.

DesdiPhoenix

Avatar: 75442 Wed Nov 12 18:57:30 -0500 2008
4

[T3H L33T HACK3RZ]

Level 35 Hacker

“43 4f 44 45 20 4d 41 53 54 45 52”

TUBSWEETIE Posted:

I still don’t follow in the second link. Claude frog is winning and there’s no identical bids listed. Only one 200k bid showing.

the first link is totally right and that’s a serious issue.

I think he’s saying that when he put his max bid in, it was 200,000. Someone else topped his 115,762 bid with a max of 200,000 also. It then showed Judge Claude Frollo as the high bidder, when it should have still been him.

quangntenemy

Avatar: 14557 2011-10-31 11:07:55 -0400
59

[WeChall]

Level 69 Troll

:ronpaul: :****ing sucks:

MC Banhammer Posted:

Did you report it in the bug tool?

Yes, but I need your help to get the bug fixed faster. Because it would be unfair if it affects the win/loss of an auction.

DesdiPhoenix Posted:

I think he’s saying that when he put his max bid in, it was 200,000. Someone else topped his 115,762 bid with a max of 200,000 also. It then showed Judge Claude Frollo as the high bidder, when it should have still been him.

Yes

TUBSWEETIE

Avatar: 3450 2011-07-31 00:45:06 -0400
28

[And The Banned Pla-
yed On
]

Level 37 Troll

MY MEMORY IS THAT OF A SMALL GRAPE

quangntenemy Posted:

Yes

Could it be that Claude put his 200k max bid up earlier than you?

hmm probably not. 20 minutes between your two first bids

TUBSWEETIE edited this message on 01/23/2009 10:54AM

quangntenemy

Avatar: 14557 2011-10-31 11:07:55 -0400
59

[WeChall]

Level 69 Troll

:ronpaul: :****ing sucks:

TUBSWEETIE Posted:

Could it be that Claude put his 200k max bid up earlier than you?

Nope, I was the highest bidder with 115,762 (max 200,000) for a while.

Acid Flux

Avatar: 6767 Tue Mar 17 11:41:54 -0400 2009
20

[Country Kitchen an-
d Flea Market
]

Level 35 Troll

KYOUBAI IS SUPER-SERIOUS BUSINESS

This happened to me as well. I had the highest bid fora while on an item with a certain max proxy bid. Someone came along and sniped it with the exact same bid.

My bid had been sitting for at least ten minutes when this identical max bid came in. In this situation, the previous bid should be pushed to the max and the new bid should be denied.

Evil Trout

MODERATOR
Avatar: 35 2023-04-24 23:24:10 +0000

[Crotch Zombie]

Level 21 Hacker

this site is deader than the toddlers in my basement

Unless I’m mistaken, this is how proxy bidding is supposed to work?

http://pages.ebay.com/help/buy/automatic-bidding.html

Otherwise what should happen — the second bidder’s bid fails with no record and yours is suddenly bumped to the maximum? I think that’s weirder.

MC Banhammer

Avatar: 1887 2011-07-31 00:40:59 -0400
36

[Good Omens]

Level 69 Troll

Trying to create drama to drum up the ratings by any means necessary!

Evil Trout Posted:

Unless I’m mistaken, this is how proxy bidding is supposed to work?

http://pages.ebay.com/help/buy/automatic-bidding.html

Otherwise what should happen — the second bidder’s bid fails with no record and yours is suddenly bumped to the maximum? I think that’s weirder.

That’s not what that page says. It says you’ll be notified if you max bid is equalled, but doesn’t explicitly say whose bid should succeed.

The first bidder by time should always have priority unless their bid is exceeded. If tied, the new bidder should be told “Someone else has the same max bid as yours, so theirs takes precedence. You must outbid them to become the high bidder.” or somesuch.

Shii

Avatar: 23167 2010-01-24 16:31:18 -0500
27

[Phantasmagoric Spl-
endor
]

Level 35 Emo Kid

I haven't seen a bad idea that I didn't like.

If someone submits a bid for max, and someone else bids that max, you already had yours in first.

It’s unfair for the second bid to come along and knock you out when it’s the same.

scully

Avatar: 12797 2015-07-20 16:59:13 -0400
77

[Good Omens]

Level 69 Camwhore

I really do talk ****!

It does “feel” weird, I bug reported a similar thing myself, but just hadn’t thought it through fully.

Easy way to see what happens:

Bidder A places bid for 10.000 – bid is set to 1,000 (min bid)

Bidder B places bid for 9,000 – bid jumps to 9,250 (bidder A winning)

Bidder C places bid for 10,000 – bid jumps to 9,500 (bidder C), then 9,750 (bidder A), then 10,000 (bidder C)

That is the breakdown for that final bidding war, but all you would see would be a jump from 9,250 for bidder A to 10k for bidder C. Not seeing the back and forth bidding war that is happening all the way up the chain is what is confusing. In the example above the jump from 1k to 9,250 had tons of back and forth bids that aren’t shown either.

It has nothing to do with who bid first, simply whose turn it is to bid when that max bid number hits.

MC Banhammer

Avatar: 1887 2011-07-31 00:40:59 -0400
36

[Good Omens]

Level 69 Troll

Trying to create drama to drum up the ratings by any means necessary!

More evidence: Google “proxy bidding” and tie. In most places the short text shows what we’re saying. For example:

http://www.projectwonderful.com/wecanhelp.php?id=6 :

in case of a tie for high bidder, the earlier bid takes precedence

KindFearless-
Leader

Avatar: Halloween Pumpkin
6

Level 35 Troll

“Problem Child IV”

MC Banhammer Posted:

More evidence: Google “proxy bidding” and tie. In most places the short text shows what we’re saying. For example:

http://www.projectwonderful.com/wecanhelp.php?id=6 :

in case of a tie for high bidder, the earlier bid takes precedence

Seconded. For graphical?

bidder A: 10000 flezz

bidder b: 10000 flezz

Evil Trout

MODERATOR
Avatar: 35 2023-04-24 23:24:10 +0000

[Crotch Zombie]

Level 21 Hacker

this site is deader than the toddlers in my basement

Okay I’m convinced. I’ll see what I can do.

MC Banhammer

Avatar: 1887 2011-07-31 00:40:59 -0400
36

[Good Omens]

Level 69 Troll

Trying to create drama to drum up the ratings by any means necessary!

Evil Trout Posted:

Okay I’m convinced. I’ll see what I can do.

Should be just changing a >= to a >, unless the code is really weird.

DesdiPhoenix

Avatar: 75442 Wed Nov 12 18:57:30 -0500 2008
4

[T3H L33T HACK3RZ]

Level 35 Hacker

“43 4f 44 45 20 4d 41 53 54 45 52”

MC Banhammer Posted:

Should be just changing a >= to a >, unless the code is really weird.

Knowing ET, it’s probably weird.

Colonel Bear

Avatar: 68748 Mon May 18 15:38:07 -0400 2009
13

[Very Busy Klan]

Level 35 Troll

“Problem Child IV”

DesdiPhoenix Posted:

Knowing ET, it’s probably weird.

It probably had variables like. hymen.bid and penetr.bid

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