Xylon Posted:

Given the expansive amount of adult material that is allowed in RP forums as well as the seemingly adult content that is part of the main game, it seems only logical that a rule be added restricting users under the age of 18, or the age of majority in their country.

This will help indemnify Crotch Zombie of any wrong doing when younger posters arrive and will bumist moderators in banning individuals who claim to be underage. In much the same fashion as pretending to be someone who is permabanned will get you banned, so should claiming to be underage get you banned if this rule were to go into effect.

Signed, unless there’s a way to make a separate, 18+, NSFW board and just limit pr0n to that. ForumWarz is more adult-oriented in the first place, but there are plenty of players under 18 who don’t completely suck, and I’d hate to see them get run off.

Related: if we WERE to ban people who were under 18, already on the site, and had BP on their account, that could be a liability, too.

Bonkenhi Posted:

I oppose the idea, since I don’t see anything that should be considered 18+ anywhere but flamebate, in some people’s sigs, I guess, but even that’s not too bad.

I don’t mind a 18+ admission for Flamebate, but don’t make the actual site 18+.

As for posting CP, as long as a 18+ for Flamebate was there, it wouldn’t be a problem.

Good compromise.

(Edited to include Bonkenhi’s suggestion.)

abitdark Posted:

The words and contect of the game can be just as bad as anything on Flamebate. You dont have to have visuals for something to be “Adult Content” I bet if some parents saw what was on here, they would be pretty angry about it.

So far most of this discussion is going towards the pics that are posted, but it isn’t always just pictures that the law would consider. that is just what gets the most attention.

Exactly. Think about the links posted in IDC and INCIT. Think about the PG-13 material the game’s made of (especially camwhore attacks). etc.

MC Banhammer Posted:

Exactly. Think about the links posted in IDC and INCIT. Think about the PG-13 material the game’s made of (especially camwhore attacks). etc.

If you think about it, there is also the whole thing going on with Consol game ratings due to violence and language. I did hear a little thing from “The_****” today after finishing part of the game that isn’t really something that could be considered suitible for under 18

(I was surprised there was sound to the game since I dont have speakers at work Log in to see images! )

abitdark Posted:

If you think about it, there is also the whole thing going on with Consol game ratings due to violence and language. I did hear a little thing from “The_****” today after finishing part of the game that isn’t really something that could be considered suitible for under 18

(I was surprised there was sound to the game since I dont have speakers at work Log in to see images!

Well, if it was agreed that the user was 13+, and that they aren’t easily offended, I honestly don’t see a problem with the whole thing.

Edit: So the game contains illegal content that I didn’t pick up on?

Bonkenhi edited this message on 01/14/2009 2:26PM

MC Banhammer Posted:

Offensive is not the issue at hand here. Illegal is.

Exactly. Really, “illegal” is only potentially in Flamebate. I still think Bonkenhi’s suggestion about limited Flamebate to 18+ and leaving the rest alone is the right answer.

We all agreed when we signed up that we were not easily offended. When I say adult material, I am referring to to constant sexual undertones in the main storyline. There are numerous reference to male sodomy and at one point after completing a mission you get an audio tubmail from a npc lesbian who is engaged in sex. At any given point in incit, idc or in the active threads in forumwarz you are going to see objectionable material.

This is not about punishing minors. There are certain privileges that come with the age of majority and one of those is the access to adult material. With all of the language and dark humor references this site is far from pg-13. Most Stalk conversations use repeated profanity. I am not opposed to this content in anyway, in fact I find it to be quite hilarious, I do not however support it being made available to children, and if you are under 18 you are a child, no matter how intelligent or mature you may act.

There are plenty of things that need to be considered on this issue, and ultimately it is a decision for the CZ team. However, it is only a matter of time before this issue becomes a serious problem.

Bonkenhi Posted:

Well, if it was agreed that the user was 13+, and that they aren’t easily offended, I honestly don’t see a problem with the whole thing.

Edit: So the game contains illegal content that I didn’t pick up on?

Its because Legally a person under the age of 18 is not able to make the decision about weather something is appropriate or not.

OrsonScottCard Posted:

Exactly. Really, “illegal” is only potentially in Flamebate.

And klan pages. And avatars. And tubmail. And the wiki. And potentially the links people post in IDC and INCIT chat. And in states where exposing children to camwhore attacks is considered illegal.

Restricting to Flamebate does not solve the problem. If there is one.

OrsonScottCard Posted:

Appropriate is in the eye of the beholder. Being inappropriate won’t get ForumWarz shut down, but being illegal could.

The goal’s to SAVE the site, not CHANGE the site. The less change comes from a fix, the better. CZ’s made something beautiful here.

Agreed, but as I said (just after you posted) Legally it isn’t the persons choice. The parents or Guardians still have every right to go after FW. a fail safe would be best for the site, and as it was pointed out they wont loose any revenue. but they would loose more if they got hit legally

Just change the text to “I am over 18 and not easily offended.” How hard is that? You then have some legal leverage and the 15 yo’s still click through while chuckling to themselves how clever they are for breakin’ the law.