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Feature I am worried about the upcoming auction house

quangntenemy

Avatar: 14557 2011-10-31 11:07:55 -0400
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[WeChall]

Level 69 Troll

:ronpaul: :****ing sucks:

Will it allow trading moar files between alts? That would be nice but if not done properly people could abuse it to transfer Flezz between alts, and that would screw up the game and the Flezz leaderboard.

Acid Flux

Avatar: 6767 Tue Mar 17 11:41:54 -0400 2009
20

[Country Kitchen an-
d Flea Market
]

Level 35 Troll

KYOUBAI IS SUPER-SERIOUS BUSINESS

Possible Solutions:

1. Allow direct trading of .moar files between alts, outside of the realm of the Auction House

2. Disable alts from bidding on their ‘own’ auctions.

3. Simply let it happen, since anyone that built up a high enough main character is simply taking a shortcut if they ‘power-level’ their own alt. Also, nothing would stop two friends from trading back and forth with their own alts to cirgreat timesvent any of the above solutions, so there’s really no point in preventing a single player from doing it.

Only possible solution? Completely anonymous auctions. No customization allowed of the title & text of the item for sale. No seller name, no bidder name, no immediate update of bids, no immediate posting of auctions. Have all new auctions post simultaneous (once per hour), and have all bids post the same way. Make it so that all bids have to be a rounded off predetermined number to avoid people tracking their bids (i.e., 105,000 flezz in stead of 104,756 or 105,834 flezz)

And even that’s going to be a pain in the bum to manager, I’m sure, and someone would probably still find a way to cheat the system.

quangntenemy

Avatar: 14557 2011-10-31 11:07:55 -0400
59

[WeChall]

Level 69 Troll

:ronpaul: :****ing sucks:

I think we can set some minimum and maximum value for each piece of moar file, probably based on the previous sale value. That would prevent some of the Flezz transfer problem.

meeeeeeeeee

Avatar: 15443 2010-04-04 18:27:25 -0400
49

[Brainfreeze]

Level 35 Troll

Sneakily vicious and filled with virtuous pit bulls.

Maximum value could still be abused – if anyone else snipes a bid, they’d still be paying over the odds for the moar part. If direct transfer of flezz between alts is blocked, it could still be done through middlemen. I don’t see a way to stop it.

Bling Fling

Avatar: Bling Fling's Avatar
21

Level 35 Camwhore

“Legs Wide Open”

Just end the Flezz Leaderboard. It’ll be senseless the day trading gets introduced.

meeeeeeeeee

Avatar: 15443 2010-04-04 18:27:25 -0400
49

[Brainfreeze]

Level 35 Troll

Sneakily vicious and filled with virtuous pit bulls.

Is there a leaderboard that isn’t senseless? End them all.

And devalue the peens for all of them too.

meeeeeeeeee edited this message on 01/01/2009 8:21PM

meeeeeeeeee

Avatar: 15443 2010-04-04 18:27:25 -0400
49

[Brainfreeze]

Level 35 Troll

Sneakily vicious and filled with virtuous pit bulls.

The one potential danger for a trader trying to abuse an anonymous system – if multiple players list the same moar part, they won’t know which to bid on, and so could end up giving a flezz mountain to someone else. I suspect that will be avoidable though, given the range of parts available.

quangntenemy

Avatar: 14557 2011-10-31 11:07:55 -0400
59

[WeChall]

Level 69 Troll

:ronpaul: :****ing sucks:

I have an idea. Maybe we can exclude the   from the auction house in the leaderboard. Then we only have the power leveling problem to solve.

meeeeeeeeee

Avatar: 15443 2010-04-04 18:27:25 -0400
49

[Brainfreeze]

Level 35 Troll

Sneakily vicious and filled with virtuous pit bulls.

quangntenemy Posted:

I have an idea. Maybe we can exclude the   from the auction house in the leaderboard. Then we only have the power leveling problem to solve.

So, flezz earned from an auction sale does not add to your core flezz total – only the sale of items, or completion of jobs etc would do so.

The way around that would be for a player to buy items, then resell them, effectively laundering the flezz (though reducing the amount in the process) Would be an effective indirect auction tax, and a flezz sink. If ‘normal’ flezz is used to buy items before ‘auction’ flezz, then players who want to regain their leaderboard position would have to buy, then resell their entire flezz base, thus paying the tax again.

Still messy, but feasible I guess.

FalCoN

Avatar: 10741 2010-01-24 16:21:30 -0500
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[Grey Goose Mafiosi]

Level 35 Camwhore

EVERYONE THINKS THAT I LEFT THIS ****TY GAME

nah, that sounds way too complex

just make sure that auctions are 100% anonymous/identical and that they don’t appear right away, but all at rollover. also add some additional mechanismus to curb abuse, such as the proposed restriction that alts can’t bid on each others’ items and maybe also some kind of limit values for items so that you can’t sell Chinese food junk for 100,000. There will be still abuse, but at least it shouldn’t **** up the game too much.

FalCoN edited this message on 01/01/2009 8:46PM

quangntenemy

Avatar: 14557 2011-10-31 11:07:55 -0400
59

[WeChall]

Level 69 Troll

:ronpaul: :****ing sucks:

One more thing, we could add some kind of tax on each purchase. Like 5% tax for purchase of less than 10,000, 10% for 50,000, 20% for 100,000, and so on. This way we can have some Flezz sink and the middlemen workaround would be almost prevented unless the player is desperate enough to pay for the tax twice.

CrinkzPipe

Avatar: 35643 2011-12-11 17:25:30 -0500
8

[Harem and Sushi Bar]

Level 61 Emo Kid

Hi, I'm an adult whos into anime. ALSO male reproductive organS!

Or you can buy quest items called auction tokens. Every 1 token can be worth say 1,000? Then the auctions would carry out from there.

FalCoN

Avatar: 10741 2010-01-24 16:21:30 -0500
24

[Grey Goose Mafiosi]

Level 35 Camwhore

EVERYONE THINKS THAT I LEFT THIS ****TY GAME

Crinkz Posted:

Or you can buy quest items called auction tokens. Every 1 token can be worth say 1,000? Then the auctions would carry out from there.

I thought about something similar. The difference is that you don’t buy them for Log in to see images!

CrinkzPipe

Avatar: 35643 2011-12-11 17:25:30 -0500
8

[Harem and Sushi Bar]

Level 61 Emo Kid

Hi, I'm an adult whos into anime. ALSO male reproductive organS!

Another idea based on “auction tokens”.

Add a second curency that appears under Flezz. 1 flezz = 1 “token”.

Also, what would the tokens do Falcon?

FalCoN

Avatar: 10741 2010-01-24 16:21:30 -0500
24

[Grey Goose Mafiosi]

Level 35 Camwhore

EVERYONE THINKS THAT I LEFT THIS ****TY GAME

Crinkz Posted:

Also, what would the tokens do Falcon?

Oh, well, I personally intended them to be used for bidding on auctions. You should be able to bid several times on the same auction without using new tokens though.

CrinkzPipe

Avatar: 35643 2011-12-11 17:25:30 -0500
8

[Harem and Sushi Bar]

Level 61 Emo Kid

Hi, I'm an adult whos into anime. ALSO male reproductive organS!

Ahh, 1 auction a day up to 3 a day. Sounds like a good/bad idea.

FalCoN

Avatar: 10741 2010-01-24 16:21:30 -0500
24

[Grey Goose Mafiosi]

Level 35 Camwhore

EVERYONE THINKS THAT I LEFT THIS ****TY GAME

It shouldn’t be too difficult to adjust the numbers to whatever you like.

quangntenemy

Avatar: 14557 2011-10-31 11:07:55 -0400
59

[WeChall]

Level 69 Troll

:ronpaul: :****ing sucks:

I like the idea of tokens. But I don’t think it’s a good idea to limit the number of auctions. Maybe we can have tokens convertible to Flezz with an NPC similar to haxlrose.

quangntenemy

Avatar: 14557 2011-10-31 11:07:55 -0400
59

[WeChall]

Level 69 Troll

:ronpaul: :****ing sucks:

I expect an answer from CZ. My gaming experience has been screwed up so many times with their unexperimented updates and I don’t want to see that happen again.

Shroomsday

Avatar: Tight Skirt
22

Level 61 Camwhore

“Sergeant Slutter”

Leaderboards only matter if you care about them. If it breaks the flezz leaderboard it’s not like many people were that invested in its prestige in the first place.

Shroomsday edited this message on 01/04/2009 2:31PM
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