Inertia Posted:

Well yes that is what Romans 9:14-21 basically says.

That means there is no free will then.

Inertia Posted:

This is what I’ve keep saying all these time. For us there is free will, but in God’s perspective, the thing that we call free will is redundant. But as far as we’re concerned, we still have free will.

The concept of no free will goes against Christian doctrine and also puts God on a very, very evil pedestal. O.o

Like I said, I believe that there isn’t enough evidence to prove or disprove either way. Just offereing up some healthy points for debate.

next time do your own homework.

It wasn’t a homework task.

3x + 2y = 28

3x + 12y = 78

-10y = -50

y = 5

3x + 2(5) = 28

3x + 10 = 28

3x = 18

x = 6

This was a simple problem. I could have given you a set of 25 equations with 25 variables. However the point remains, you solved them in the simplest manner possible, by reducing the problem, to get a partial solution then solving by substitution.

1. Physics

2. The afterlife

3. By Word

since you gave such short answers, i’m going to have to bumume that you mean for 3 by the word of God and that by the afterlife, heaven and hell; two places that do not exist in our physical universe.

the questions I gave you, were essentially larger problems; while not directly related to simultanious equations, you should still have approached them using a logical and reasoned approach. Instead you create new things to try and explain something because you don’t know the answer.

To demonstrate what you did with a simpler problem, if i were to give the equations above to someone who didn’t know how to solve them and they were to do it like this:

3x + 2y = 28

x + 4y = 26

Add god to both equations.

3x + 2y + GOD = 28

x + 4y + GOD = 26

so x = 7 and y = 9

this works because:

3*7 + 2*9 = 39, in this case GOD = -11

7+4*9 = 43, in this case GOD = -17

of cause, GOD is an all powerful being so when put into an equation can be both -11 and -17 at the same time.

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If you go to hell for not believing in god/accepting jesus as your saviour etc; for some people that is the only reason that they believe in god – the fear of hell. Is that really what god wants?

Edit:

i noticed you didn’t respond to this either:

I’ve been “possessed” by the holy spirit while writing this post… god says you’re wrong. He didn’t acctually create the universe, it was an accident – knocked over a jar of chemicals while high on pot. He appologises for the confusion.

As with the equations, there was a point to it.

Inertia Posted:

Cool you’re already internet debating back when I was still learning multiplication table…

I’m rather scared to take you on but will try.

We do have free will, and God is omniscient. So you’re saying that if God can know what would we do in advance, that effectively means no free will?

I’m saying that not only does god know, but god created us to do what he knew we would do. We can’t not do what god created us to do. It’s not possible. And you did precisely what I sad you would: you forgot “creator of everything”. Typical apologist tactic.

Goatse II Posted:

Muslims generally view Jesus and the Virgin Mary in a positive light. Why do they hate Christians so much?

You’re judging an entire religion based on the actions of a small portion of it?

By that logic all Christians are completely bat-**** crazy…