Buy Brownie Points
Forumwarz is the first "Massively Single-Player" online RPG completely built around Internet culture.

You are currently looking at Flamebate, our community forums. Players can discuss the game here, strategize, and role play as their characters.

You need to be logged in to post and to see the uncensored versions of these forums.

Log in or Learn about Forumwarz

Civil Discussion
Switch to Role-Playing Civil Discussion
FAQ Max damage?

doctormale reproductive organtor

Avatar: doctorcocktor's Avatar

[70 Character Story-
tellers
]

Level 35 Troll

“Problem Child IV”

What’s the highest damage that can be reached now? I know it’s impossible to one-hit Geronimo boss thread, but I’m wondering if a fully-specced Emo with the best moar files can top 5,000 damage when they have low health.

Right now I can hit for 4846 using Political Flamebait after Fap and Racial Tension, that seems to be about the max for Trolls.

SimplyTHEBEST

Avatar: Rocker Chick
17

Level 69 Camwhore

“Venereal Biohazard”

Everybody hurts = 230 base damage

Recipe for disaster = 200 base damage

430 total base damage = x23.25348837209302 attack damage multiplier

That means it would take an average +2225.35% attack damage bonus to pwn Geronimo

Without the ego boost, that would be 291 points in offense. I’ll work out the math for a reasonable ego-boost/offense combo later today.

SimplyTHEBEST

Avatar: Rocker Chick
17

Level 69 Camwhore

“Venereal Biohazard”

Ok, I’m tired, no pointing out the obvious mistakes I made. (Recipe is not an ego-boosted skill, for one)

However, I think this equation is wrong:

Thewiki Posted:

Round(O*Round(1+.75*X))

Because O, according to the context

Thewiki Posted:

Most of an Emo Kid’s attacks deal more damage when they are at lower Ego, specifically Round(O*Round(1+.75*X)), where X is the percentage of your ego missing, and O is the extra damage factor determined by your Offense.

...doesn’t make any sense. By that math, having 1000ego, LADing to 20ego, and then attacking would multiply your damage bonus by 75. If you had a damage bonus of 766.66% (Offense of 101), then that would result in a net damage bonus of 57,500%, for a total damage of 13,248,000 from “Everybody Hurts”.

Perhaps I’m just too ****ed-up to think today, but something doesn’t seem at all right about that.

SimplyTHEBEST edited this message on 12/09/2008 11:25AM

Aurum

Avatar: Code (Green)
7

[Lee Harvey Oswalds-
Orphan Powered De-
ath Machine
]

Level 61 Hacker

INCIT is like my birthday party but with more people

SimplyTHEBEST Posted:

Ok, I’m tired, no pointing out the obvious mistakes I made. (Recipe is not an ego-boosted skill, for one)

However, I think this equation is wrong:

...doesn’t make any sense. By that math, having 1000ego, LADing to 20ego, and then attacking would multiply your damage bonus by 75. If you had a damage bonus of 766.66% (Offense of 101), then that would result in a net damage bonus of 57,500%, for a total damage of 13,248,000 from “Everybody Hurts”.

Perhaps I’m just too ****ed-up to think today, but something doesn’t seem at all right about that.

It would multiply damage by 75 or .75?

Deific Blund-
er

Avatar: 74127 2010-07-25 10:31:51 -0400
17

[Brainfreeze]

Level 35 Troll

I **** FISH AND I HAVE NO BROWNIE POINTS AND I LOVE male reproductive organ

Wouldn’t multiplying something by .75 reduce it’s damage to 3/4?

SIG-ENABLING-
-MOCK CONGLER

Avatar: 70410 Tue Mar 31 18:27:10 -0400 2009
4

[The Airship]

Level 20 Hacker

Posesses, and is, an incredibly large male reproductive organ

On my Emo, I’m able to hit geronimo up to 5k – 7.2kish while attacking with 10ish ego with Everybody Hurts, then Life after Death saveing me bringing me to 20ish, so I can hit with Qouth the Raven from around 1025 ego. He has like 105 offense(Currently speced luck for HoFF’s Pink Floyd so can’t check) Note, he still doesnt have the best .moar files. I will check when I can haxl again.

doctormale reproductive organtor

Avatar: doctorcocktor's Avatar

[70 Character Story-
tellers
]

Level 35 Troll

“Problem Child IV”

XSS Code Posted:

On my Emo, I’m able to hit geronimo up to 5k – 7.2kish while attacking with 10ish ego with Everybody Hurts, then Life after Death saveing me bringing me to 20ish, so I can hit with Qouth the Raven from around 1025 ego. He has like 105 offense(Currently speced luck for HoFF’s Pink Floyd so can’t check) Note, he still doesnt have the best .moar files. I will check when I can haxl again.

Damn, you can already hit for 7.2k? With the top moar files, it may actually be possible for an emo with 1% health remaining to hit for 9999 then.

SimplyTHEBEST

Avatar: Rocker Chick
17

Level 69 Camwhore

“Venereal Biohazard”

I could try to work out the equation with a few pieces of accurate data, but “5k-7.2k” isn’t very precise or accurate.

Also, I need to know what your max ego is for your current ego to mean anything, since we DO know that it’s a function of how much ego you’re missing.

doctormale reproductive organtor Posted:

Damn, you can already hit for 7.2k? With the top moar files, it may actually be possible for an emo with 1% health remaining to hit for 9999 then.

I think he means total.

SimplyTHEBEST edited this message on 12/09/2008 11:40AM

doctormale reproductive organtor

Avatar: doctorcocktor's Avatar

[70 Character Story-
tellers
]

Level 35 Troll

“Problem Child IV”

SimplyTHEBEST Posted:

I could try to work out the equation with a few pieces of accurate data, but “5k-7.2k” isn’t very precise or accurate.

Also, I need to know what your max ego is for your current ego to mean anything, since we DO know that it’s a function of how much ego you’re missing.

I think he means total.

Oh, from both attacks? Still, an emo might be able to 2-hit the thread at max offense.

SIG-ENABLING-
-MOCK CONGLER

Avatar: 70410 Tue Mar 31 18:27:10 -0400 2009
4

[The Airship]

Level 20 Hacker

Posesses, and is, an incredibly large male reproductive organ

SimplyTHEBEST Posted:

I could try to work out the equation with a few pieces of accurate data, but “5k-7.2k” isn’t very precise or accurate.

Also, I need to know what your max ego is for your current ego to mean anything, since we DO know that it’s a function of how much ego you’re missing.

I think he means total.

I belive he can haxl in a couple days so not sure if it will still be relavent then.

SIG-ENABLING-
-MOCK CONGLER

Avatar: 70410 Tue Mar 31 18:27:10 -0400 2009
4

[The Airship]

Level 20 Hacker

Posesses, and is, an incredibly large male reproductive organ

doctormale reproductive organtor Posted:

Oh, from both attacks? Still, an emo might be able to 2-hit the thread at max offense.

And yeah, from two attacks.

SimplyTHEBEST

Avatar: Rocker Chick
17

Level 69 Camwhore

“Venereal Biohazard”

To be honest, ANY emokid data I can gather will help with figuring out the actual equation. For all I know ET changed the equation to OLog(X) for Ep2.

Vuron

Avatar: 4928 2011-07-31 00:39:10 -0400
13

[Team Shortbus]

Level 40 Emo Kid

Vile serpent! I generally avoid temptation unless I can't resist it.

With an emo and the darkside .moar file (bumuming you have a decent set of other moar files) it should be possible to pwn geronimo again. Of course that would likely result in ET pushing the pwnage on the boss thread up even higher but at least you could say you’ve beaten geronimo.

CrinkzPipe

Avatar: 35643 2015-02-20 21:59:22 -0500
10

[Harem and Sushi Bar]

Level 62 Emo Kid

Hi, I'm an adult whos into bumes. But not boners!

Whew tripple post because I’m to lazy to edit. Posting on my emo.

But yeah, I have no where near the best files.

Current .moar file list.

Dogreat timesent: more random keystrokes.dtbs 7 offense

Music: Thereminor Threat – I Don’t Wanna Touch It.noiz 5 offense

Picture: meeee278.gawk 4 offense

And I don’t even have a program file.

Hopefuly with pink floyd, and a good program file I can get 140ish offense.

CrinkzPipe

Avatar: 35643 2015-02-20 21:59:22 -0500
10

[Harem and Sushi Bar]

Level 62 Emo Kid

Hi, I'm an adult whos into bumes. But not boners!

SimplyTHEBEST Posted:

To be honest, ANY emokid data I can gather will help with figuring out the actual equation. For all I know ET changed the equation to OLog(X) for Ep2.

When I can haxl, we can get together on IDC or a IRC channel and I can work with you on it.

SimplyTHEBEST

Avatar: Rocker Chick
17

Level 69 Camwhore

“Venereal Biohazard”

The only thing that matters here is stats and damage. EQ is irrelevent.

If you can tell me your Offense, max ego, current ego, and damage with an attack, then that’s the best data I could hope for outside of controlled conditions.

Also: This thread is now about the ego damage boost equation.

CrinkzPipe

Avatar: 35643 2015-02-20 21:59:22 -0500
10

[Harem and Sushi Bar]

Level 62 Emo Kid

Hi, I'm an adult whos into bumes. But not boners!

Edit: 1928 at max ego.

I did 2314 with Everybody Hurts at 170 ego out of 215 97 offense.

I did 3027 with Everybody Hurts at 86 ego.

I did 3463 with Everybody Hurts at 35 ego.

I did 3555 dmg with Everybody Hurts at 24 ego.

As low as I could go since I’m doing this on geronimo.

CrinkzPipe edited this message on 12/09/2008 12:02PM

Nicco

MODERATOR
Avatar: 24745 2011-07-31 00:34:23 -0400
51

[Harem and Sushi Bar]

Level 69 Troll

Nicco Nicco Nicco Nicco Nicco Nicco Nicco Nicco Nicco Nicco Nicco Nicco Nicco Nicco Nicco Nicco

Crinkz Posted:

Edit: 1928 at max ego.

I did 2314 with Everybody Hurts at 170 ego out of 215 97 offense.

I did 3027 with Everybody Hurts at 86 ego.

I did 3463 with Everybody Hurts at 35 ego.

I did 3555 dmg with Everybody Hurts at 24 ego.

As low as I could go since I’m doing this on geronimo.

My Emo has 2100 Ego and did 3945 damage with everybody hurts when he had 27 ego left.

SimplyTHEBEST

Avatar: Rocker Chick
17

Level 69 Camwhore

“Venereal Biohazard”

Everybody Hurts: 230 damage.

97 offense: +744% damage, 844% damage total.

Crinkz Posted:

Edit: 1928 at max ego.

838% damage, putting it within the margin of error for the offense boost.

Crinkz Posted:

I did 2314 with Everybody Hurts at 170 ego out of 215 97 offense.

79% health, 1006% damage – 100% = +906% damage bonus

906/7.66=118 effective offense

118/97=122% boost from ego

Crinkz Posted:

I did 3027 with Everybody Hurts at 86 ego.

40% health, 1316% damage – 100% = +1216% damage bonus

1216/7.66=159 effective offense

159/97=164% boost from ego

Crinkz Posted:

I did 3463 with Everybody Hurts at 35 ego.

16% health, 1506% damage – 100% = +1406% damage bonus

1406/7.66=184 effective offense

184/97=190% boost from ego

Crinkz Posted:

I did 3555 dmg with Everybody Hurts at 24 ego.

11% health, 1546% damage – 100% = +1446% damage bonus

1446/7.66=189 effective offense

189/97=195% boost from ego

——

79% ego = 122% boost

40% ego = 164% boost

16% ego = 190% boost

11% ego = 195% boost

The margin of error being what it is, it looks like the emokid bonus is O*(1+MissingEgo%), which means that you can never get (let alone exceed) more than 2x damage out of your ego.

Raven: 175

Hurts: 230

Total: 405

9,999/405 = 2469%

bumuming the 2x bonus from 0% health: 1134% damage bonus.

1134%/7.66%=148 offense.

bumuming an average ego of 5% (20ego out of 1000): 1167% damage bonus.

1167%/7.66%=153 offense.

Things seem to work out OK-ish, so we have a working model.

SimplyTHEBEST

Avatar: Rocker Chick
17

Level 69 Camwhore

“Venereal Biohazard”

Nicco Posted:

My Emo has 2100 Ego and did 3945 damage with everybody hurts when he had 27 ego left.

Is your offense around 113, give or take a few points?

Edit: Also, I updated the wiki. Even if I’m wrong, the numbers are STILL far less inaccurate than what was there before.

SimplyTHEBEST edited this message on 12/09/2008 1:27PM
Internet Delay Chat
Have fun playing!
To chat with other players, you must Join Forumwarz or Log In now!