Because I’m sick of hearing all of the ****ing about how much ep 2 and BPs cost, I’ll break down for you what it would cost to host and run this game.

Server:

http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=us&cs=04&fb=1&kc=category~tower&l=en&oc=becwpk1&s=bsd

Once you add all of the features that you’d need to run FWZ it costs $2,728.

Bandwidth:

http://www.t1shopper.com/us/oh/Toronto.shtml

$550 – $1,200 a month in Toronto CA.

Backup Software:

http://www.innodb.com/hot-backup/order/

$500 a year.

Web Hosting for the .com:

Usually around $60 a year.

Art and other commercial or licensed work:

God only knows.

So let’s sum up my quick estimate:

$3,278 up front.

bumuming the cheapest for everything else:

$6,600 a year to run it.

So for the first year that they have everything running it would cost them almost $10,000 to set everything up.

Even charging $10 a person for Ep2 that would take 1,000 people to just pay for it.

That doesn’t include all of the time and effort they put in, or money for media.

I’d like to see any one of you do all of this.

DesdiPhoenix Posted:

Because I’m sick of hearing all of the ****ing about how much ep 2 and BPs cost, I’ll break down for you what it would cost to host and run this game.

Server:

http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=us&cs=04&fb=1&kc=category~tower&l=en&oc=becwpk1&s=bsd

Once you add all of the features that you’d need to run FWZ it costs $2,728.

The fwz server can be built out of old, decommissioned desktop computers. $0.

DesdiPhoenix Posted:

Bandwidth:

http://www.t1shopper.com/us/oh/Toronto.shtml

$550 – $1,200 a month in Toronto CA.

The **** are you smoking… T1 is just an outdated buzzword. T1 is slower than most home broadband connections. Shop bettar. Also, fwz uses colo. Shop for colo, I’m too lazy.

(pre-post edit) Actually, fwz uses theplanet.com dedicated server hosting. They’ve got a DS plan for a multi-core, multi-CPU server (which fwz uses) for up to $299/month on a reasonable server. So that definitively answers that question.

DesdiPhoenix Posted:

Backup Software:

http://www.innodb.com/hot-backup/order/

$500 a year.

Oh, smooth move, find the most expensive backup software you can find, and bumume CZ uses it. PROTIP: Everything software-wise in *nix is free. Backup software is free as well. Doesn’t take much to export a MySQL database and tar|gzip everything.

DesdiPhoenix Posted:

Web Hosting for the .com:

Usually around $60 a year.

Again, what are you smoking, I want some. Domains are $10 each a year. Not even worth calculating. I’m dirt poor as **** and I own 4 domains.

DesdiPhoenix Posted:

Art and other commercial or licensed work:

God only knows.

This may be relevant to calculate.

DesdiPhoenix Posted:

So let’s sum up my quick estimate:

$3,278 up front.

Maybe $500 up front including hosting (colo) startup costs.

DesdiPhoenix Posted:

bumuming the cheapest for everything else:

$6,600 a year to run it.

I came up with about half that, $3,610 a year including domains, not including paying staff or profits. And that’s bumuming the most expensive dedicated server hosting.

And the rest is history.

FalconFour Posted:

The fwz server can be built out of old, decommissioned desktop computers. $0.

Yeah, cause that’s what I’d use to host a game. Even bumuming they had them laying around.

FalconFour Posted:

The **** are you smoking… T1 is just an outdated buzzword. T1 is slower than most home broadband connections. Shop bettar. Also, fwz uses colo. Shop for colo, I’m too lazy.

(pre-post edit) Actually, fwz uses theplanet.com dedicated server hosting. They’ve got a DS plan for a multi-core, multi-CPU server (which fwz uses) for up to $299/month on a reasonable server. So that definitively answers that question.

K, that works too.

FalconFour Posted:

Oh, smooth move, find the most expensive backup software you can find, and bumume CZ uses it. PROTIP: Everything software-wise in *nix is free. Backup software is free as well. Doesn’t take much to export a MySQL database and tar|gzip everything.

PROTIP: Learn to ****ing read.

http://blog.forumwarz.com/2008/8/26/why-episode-2-will-cost-money

FalconFour Posted:

Again, what are you smoking, I want some. Domains are $10 each a year. Not even worth calculating. I’m dirt poor as **** and I own 4 domains.

Fine, you can have that one too.

FalconFour Posted:

This may be relevant to calculate.

Thanks.

FalconFour Posted:

Maybe $500 up front including hosting (colo) startup costs.

Let’s just bumume they bothered to make a server that was worth having/using. I know I wouldn’t use some crap I had laying around to host my site.

FalconFour Posted:

I came up with about half that, $3,610 a year including domains, not including paying staff or profits. And that’s bumuming the most expensive dedicated server hosting.

And the rest is history.

Without figuring in artwork and media for the site. And even using your own numbers. They would have to have 360 people pay for Ep2 just to break even. That doesn’t include the money for the back up software that they say they use. And forgive me if I think that the creators of this awesome site, that you spend your time blasting them about, deserve a little money. The people that run this clearly loose money overall amd making this game would take forever.

Before you point out that they have ads on the site, you should know from hosting your own sites that they pay next to nothing.

Also, you get to play Ep1 for free. If you really have that much of a problem, don’t buy Ep2. Just play it for free and walk away.

And throughout all of your arguments you have yet to name a time that you hosted a game like this on your own free for everyone to use.

Till then shut the **** up, or get the **** out.

this thread sucks

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@DesdiPhoenix: Ignore FalconFour. It’ll make your life much less stressful, and you won’t be missing anything.

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MC Banhammer Posted:

@DesdiPhoenix: Ignore FalconFour. It’ll make your life much less stressful, and you won’t be missing anything.

Yeah, I’m begning to think you’re right.

I just hate seeing people’s hard work discredited like that. I used to host a ****ty game for my friends. Didn’t last long, but I remember what it was like to put up with countless complaints about how slow it was or glitches. It’s a thankless task that I’m glad CZ does.

FalconFour Posted:

BAWWWWWWWW

We’ll give you two simple options:

*) make your own version of FWZ and gtfo

*) just GTFO

Theo de Raadt Posted:

We’ll give you 3 simple options:

*) make your own version of FWZ and gtfo

*) just GTFO

*) permaban