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Pumpkin New upgrades system: Techtree?

SimplyTHEBEST

Avatar: Rocker Chick
17

Level 69 Camwhore

“Venereal Biohazard”

I think we all agree that the upgrades system needs an overhaul, if for no other reason than because it takes so damn long to click on things and they keep jumping around so we click the wrong ****.

So, if there’s going to be a redesign, why not make it something that’s actually aesthetically pleasing?

The idea is pretty simple:

Display the remaining upgrade points in a prominent location

The stats go off to one side. Each stat has it’s current value listed, a text box for entering how many points to add, the standard +/- bumons for people who can’t be bumed to use a damn keyboard, what the stat in question would then be (For Eco/Secondary, at least), and the cost of the upgrade.

A simple vertical column, nothing too special or interesting.

For the abilities, those go into a starburst pattern that takes-up the bulk of the layout.

Ability chains radiate outward from the center, with every ability accessible to your level visible as an icon. Mousing over each icon shows the ability’s information.

Any ability you have is shown in full color and has a blue aura.

Any ability you don’t have is greyscaled, contrast-reduced, and blurred a bit.

Abilities that you can’t get at the moment (Not enough UP, for example) get a red aura.

Abilities that you don’t have, but cost 0UP (Starter packs) have a green aura.

Abilities that are beyond your level are not shown.

Clicking on any unpurchased ability results in the upgrade system buying abilities along that chain until it either runs out of UP or reaches the chosen ability.

Clicking on a purchased ability results in the upgrade system selling that ability and every ability beyond it.

At the bottom of the layout are two bumons: “Reset” and “Submit”. Reset clears all the changes, “Submit” makes them permanent. You still need Haxl to do any resetting.

Aside from being more visually appealing, this would allow for more flexibility in the future. For example, what if ET decided to add some more-complicated ability chains? Perhaps adding a new ability chain that depended on two or more other abilities? Or branching ability chains?

As always, feedback is welcome.

Kilroy

Avatar: 62524 Fri Dec 26 00:25:59 -0500 2008
7

Level 35 Emo Kid

“Cutty Cutterson”

I’m trying to draw this in paint to help myself understand this, but yes, we need a Techtree. Techtrees are amazing.

I’ll edit this when I get the picture finished >_>

Log in to see images!

You’re the Spider, obviously.

Something like that, only better looking? >_>

Kilroy edited this message on 12/08/2008 3:38PM

SimplyTHEBEST

Avatar: Rocker Chick
17

Level 69 Camwhore

“Venereal Biohazard”

Yea, that’s about what I was thinking.

ShadyPixels

Avatar: Blood Cells
31

[70 Character Story-
tellers
]

Level 69 Emo Kid

“The Infinite Sadness”

How about we add the option to Haxlrose to keep our attacks and such when we respec.

That way I don’t have to redo my toolbar every time I visit him.

shrtcat

Avatar: 79911 Sat Nov 15 22:45:44 -0500 2008
8

Level 25 Emo Kid

Posting from inside JB's bumhole

ShadyPixels Posted:

How about we add the option to Haxlrose to keep our attacks and such when we respec.

That way I don’t have to redo my toolbar every time I visit him.

But redoing your toolbar doesn’t waste time for speed runs, it’s only once you make a move.

ShadyPixels

Avatar: Blood Cells
31

[70 Character Story-
tellers
]

Level 69 Emo Kid

“The Infinite Sadness”

shrtcat Posted:

But redoing your toolbar doesn’t waste time for speed runs, it’s only once you make a move.

It’s still something that I don’t like doing, that an easy fix would take care of and improve the quality of the game.

FalconFour

Avatar: 69421 Wed Aug 12 05:13:59 -0400 2009
6

Level 35 Troll

Minty Fresh

I agree, even if it doesn’t affect speedrun times (which most people seem to believe), it’s really annoying. It makes sense to have a WoW-style toolbar, to where it remembers the items that were in the bar even when they’re not there, especially in such a short period of time between haxl’ing and buying back your attacks (come on, you haven’t even entered a forum since haxl’ing, why should the toolbar change?). Then if you enter a forum and the items that were in your toolbar aren’t available now, they just disappear.

But good god seriously, haxl’ing really needs to be refined. Log in to see images!

ezek

Avatar: 64391 Sat Jan 10 11:26:32 -0500 2009
10

[Lee Harvey Oswalds-
Orphan Powered De-
ath Machine
]

Level 69 Troll

Imperial Wizard

SimplyTHEBEST

Avatar: Rocker Chick
17

Level 69 Camwhore

“Venereal Biohazard”

ezek Posted:

so talents?

http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=

Not quite what I was thinking, but the same general idea, yes.

MC Banhammer

Avatar: 1887 2011-07-31 00:40:59 -0400
36

[Good Omens]

Level 69 Troll

Trying to create drama to drum up the ratings by any means necessary!

Something like this utility for Nexus War, except actually tied into the upgrade picker?

You know, someone could probably write a tool like that for Forumwarz…

Are-

Avatar: 90963 Mon Dec 15 03:10:56 -0500 2008
4

[Giveupalready]

Level 35 Hacker

The Biscuit Kid is my GOD, and I'm a piece of ****!

All thats needed is just to get rid of the “O HAI I R TEH UPGRADE U R WANT TO UPGRADE, IMA JUMP AROUND ON TEH PAEG”-thing.

SimplyTHEBEST

Avatar: Rocker Chick
17

Level 69 Camwhore

“Venereal Biohazard”

MC Banhammer Posted:

Something like this utility for Nexus War, except actually tied into the upgrade picker?

That also works, but clbum-specific and using JS to hide or gray-out things that the player can’t get.

MC Banhammer Posted:

You know, someone could probably write a tool like that for Forumwarz…

I don’t think ET has it set-up in such a way that a greasemonkey script could take care of it.

Even if it was, the fact is that the current system is generally regarded as a crappy placeholder – no disrespect to ET intended. People shouldn’t have to go to third parties to mask a jury-rigged system.

MC Banhammer

Avatar: 1887 2011-07-31 00:40:59 -0400
36

[Good Omens]

Level 69 Troll

Trying to create drama to drum up the ratings by any means necessary!

SimplyTHEBEST Posted:

I don’t think ET has it set-up in such a way that a greasemonkey script could take care of it.

Even if it was, the fact is that the current system is generally regarded as a crappy placeholder – no disrespect to ET intended. People shouldn’t have to go to third parties to mask a jury-rigged system.

I didn’t mean you could write a script to change the way things are bought, I meant you could write a character builder which lets you plot the results if you spend your points in a certain way. That’s what the Nexus War one does. And it does have a “clbum-specific”-ness; you pick your clbum as you advance and then only the options available to that clbum are shown.

The upgrade purchase screen could use an overhaul, yes, but in the meantime someone could whip up something which would be useable for planning purposes.

spacekadt

MODERATOR
Avatar: 16186 2011-11-01 00:02:40 -0400
81

[Brainfreeze]

Level 69 Camwhore

meh

MC Banhammer Posted:

I didn’t mean you could write a script to change the way things are bought, I meant you could write a character builder which lets you plot the results if you spend your points in a certain way. That’s what the Nexus War one does. And it does have a “clbum-specific”-ness; you pick your clbum as you advance and then only the options available to that clbum are shown.

The upgrade purchase screen could use an overhaul, yes, but in the meantime someone could whip up something which would be useable for planning purposes.

For once, the search tool came in damn handy.

Killermist put together a kickbum page that does that, it just never got updated for Ep2 attacks/stats.

Original thread here

MC Banhammer

Avatar: 1887 2011-07-31 00:40:59 -0400
36

[Good Omens]

Level 69 Troll

Trying to create drama to drum up the ratings by any means necessary!

spacekadt Posted:

For once, the search tool came in damn handy.

Killermist put together a kickbum page that does that, it just never got updated for Ep2 attacks/stats.

Original thread here

Well curse me for a n00b!

Too bad “it just never got updated for Ep2 attacks/stats.”

spacekadt

MODERATOR
Avatar: 16186 2011-11-01 00:02:40 -0400
81

[Brainfreeze]

Level 69 Camwhore

meh

MC Banhammer Posted:

Well curse me for a n00b!

Too bad “it just never got updated for Ep2 attacks/stats.”

It was you saying it that made me go “wait a second… I remember something like that”.

I was hoping that this thread would magically prompt killermist to update it, but it would kinda make more sense to bump the other thread, huh? Off to do that now. Log in to see images!

SimplyTHEBEST

Avatar: Rocker Chick
17

Level 69 Camwhore

“Venereal Biohazard”

I don’t care about planning things out since I can easily do that in my head. I just want a less inconvenient way to tell the game where my UPs go.

Hackmeister

Avatar: Code (Blue)
4

Level 35 Hacker

“43 4f 44 45 20 4d 41 53 54 45 52”

SimplyTHEBEST Posted:

I don’t care about planning things out since I can easily do that in my head. I just want a less inconvenient way to tell the game where my UPs go.

signed.

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