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Brownie Points Overpriced? (BPO) Rant inside.
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Inertia Posted:
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| Posted On: 12/08/2008 7:00AM |
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Fran Posted:
Yeah, I kinda think that the entire POINT of this discussion is that ET overcharges for ****, and seriously, how the **** can you tell me what you think fwz costs when you probably don’t even know what a ****ing web server is, let alone how much (HINT: DAMN NEAR ****ING FREE) one costs to own and run! ET says “it costs money” but may as well say “hur the server costs ten billion dollars a year and we’re severely underfunded” and you’d eat that **** right up.
THIS **** COSTS TOO ****ING MUCH FOR WHAT IT COSTS THEM
THE POINT OF THIS “DISCUSSION” (read: flamewar) IS THAT IT’S OVERPRICED
And we haven’t even mentioned the whole “SITE IS PLASTERED WITH BULL**** ADVERTISING” thing either… let me see, how many websites with paid staff and many more servers than CZ has (far as I recall, ET has mentioned that fwz uses ONE SINGLE server… but I may recall him saying it’s split to a database, web, and caching/proxy servers now – oh wow 3 servers)... and those sites run JUST FINE with all advertising income. So in practice we shouldn’t even need to pay for this game at all, just be plastered with bull**** advertising everyone blocks anyway. Retail games don’t have advertising, you think about that?
Who the **** am I kidding; my well thought out, airtight arguments are just going to be taken out of context and only one line will be replied to anyway. It’s 4am and I’m ****ing going to sleep. Log in to see images! Log in to see images! http://falconfour.com/bumhurt-cinematic |
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| Posted On: 12/08/2008 7:03AM |
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FalconFour Posted:
Don’t let the door hit you on your way out. You are 1 person out of 7 billion people on 1 planet out of 8 planets in 1 starsystem out of 100 billion starsystems. You are enormously insignificant.
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| Posted On: 12/08/2008 7:04AM |
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BlankTH Posted:
I find you pathetic that this is your reply, I must admit.
Insulting someone as a contribution to a debate is what children do.
Fran Posted:
The statistic, not the comment, please read before commenting.
Fran Posted:
My text is vocal and annoying? Then why read it, I understand you disagree, if you find it annoying to comment on my opinion then don’t bother. ULTIMATE PANTS edited this message on 12/08/2008 7:11AM |
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| Posted On: 12/08/2008 7:07AM |
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FalconFour Posted:
We need some data on this and Falcon FW is not run on Evil Trout’s basement it takes 60GB a day. Log in to see images! Log in to see images! |
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| Posted On: 12/08/2008 7:07AM |
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ULTIMATE PANTS Posted:
I don’t even read this anymore. You have a damn work. Stop sleeping while working, maybe you’ll get extra money for that.
Most of us donated because we actually ENJOY the game. Fran edited this message on 12/08/2008 7:10AMYou are 1 person out of 7 billion people on 1 planet out of 8 planets in 1 starsystem out of 100 billion starsystems. You are enormously insignificant.
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| Posted On: 12/08/2008 7:09AM |
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Fran Posted:
...Ok I’m going to try and cipher through the idiocy of that quote and answer it for you.
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Yes, “I have a job”
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No, i’m not an “unproductive worker”, nor am I even at work at the moment.
Fran Posted:
“More money for being efficient” then sure, but I don’t see how this relates to anything.
Please tell me English is your second, or even third language.
If you are actually mentally very special I apologise. ULTIMATE PANTS edited this message on 12/08/2008 7:23AM |
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| Posted On: 12/08/2008 7:19AM |
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ULTIMATE PANTS Posted:
Read my profile.
And seriously, most people don’t even want to argue with this anymore, simply because it was exhaustively discussed already.
Wait for the EP3 development. For now, the prices won’t meet a decrease. You are 1 person out of 7 billion people on 1 planet out of 8 planets in 1 starsystem out of 100 billion starsystems. You are enormously insignificant.
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| Posted On: 12/08/2008 7:23AM |
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Fran Posted:
I read your profile, it says nothing on the languages you speak, so I’m bumuming you linked me to tell me your very special.
By ‘most people’ you are referring to yourself, as with everything else you have posted in this thread, you have made out of thin air.
Who is forcing you to comment? If you can’t be bothered to post here, then don’t do it!
When someone is tired of a thread, they stop reading and posting in it, rather then declaring so after each post. ULTIMATE PANTS edited this message on 12/08/2008 7:32AM |
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| Posted On: 12/08/2008 7:31AM |
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Yeah, it’s not really worth to argue with a complete idiot.
Please leave the game. We have our quota of cheapbumes as it is. You are 1 person out of 7 billion people on 1 planet out of 8 planets in 1 starsystem out of 100 billion starsystems. You are enormously insignificant.
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| Posted On: 12/08/2008 7:33AM |
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I lol’d at the tag put on my name.
1) You just wasted your money. 2) I’m not American.
The forum is not the game, nor do you own it.
If I wish to create a thread, I am allowed to do so. You can complain to your hearts content, but you will need to put some actual thought into your posts for me to take them seriously.
All your comments are doing is derailing the thread, which is clearly what you want to do, as you have even said “No-one wants to read this, it’s annoying, exhausted, leave please”. ULTIMATE PANTS edited this message on 12/08/2008 7:50AM |
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| Posted On: 12/08/2008 7:41AM |
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ULTIMATE PANTS Posted:
RP Forum. You are 1 person out of 7 billion people on 1 planet out of 8 planets in 1 starsystem out of 100 billion starsystems. You are enormously insignificant.
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| Posted On: 12/08/2008 7:52AM |
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Fran Posted:
This is ‘Whiny ****es’ for game complaints etc.
The role playing forum is that way Log in to see images!
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Edit: Sorry I fail, considering this is under the ‘RP’ section of the flamebate, this thread is now a joke Log in to see images! ULTIMATE PANTS edited this message on 12/08/2008 8:34AM |
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| Posted On: 12/08/2008 7:59AM |
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Fran Posted:
Log in to see images! Log in to see images! Log in to see images! Log in to see images! Log in to see images! Log in to see images! Log in to see images! Buying a lot of zomg im so fat.xpeg – 500 each Log in to see images! |
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| Posted On: 12/08/2008 8:11AM |
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ULTIMATE PANTS Posted: You are 1 person out of 7 billion people on 1 planet out of 8 planets in 1 starsystem out of 100 billion starsystems. You are enormously insignificant.
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| Posted On: 12/08/2008 8:34AM |
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Damnit you bet me to the edit, check my edit time.
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| Posted On: 12/08/2008 8:35AM |
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FalconFour Posted:
Please do go somewhere else then you fabulous person
And $50 is bull****, wtf does “full access” mean anyway? Log in to see images! |
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| Posted On: 12/08/2008 8:43AM |
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ok.
Firstly, its my oppinion that EP 2 was deffinatly worth $10, on the other hand i think that meny of the BP additions arn’t worth their price tags. Lowering the price of 1 BP to $1 and the price of EP2 up to 10 BP might be a sensible move, however its ET’s choice to make how he prices his game.
Now, why should the game cost money at all?
The first reason that any game admin will give you (I am one myself) Is that it costs money to run the game. This is true. I spent £1500 on a server and pay £70 a month for bandwidth and power in a data center. Before that i was renting a server at just under £200 a month. I suspect that FW will require more than one server based on its traffic, so you can do the math and figure out how much it’ll cost to run for a couple of years. (based on 3 servers, for 2 years it comes to nearly $20000)
The first reason people will say something should be free is due to that fact that it could be funded by advertising. This is only partly true. Advertisers are not really that relyable a source of income. I’ve varied between making £30 a month upto making £300 a month (£140 of that was in a single week) It depends quite often on how much unique traffic you get as opposed (as meny people believe) to how much total traffic/clicks you get. A game such as forumwarz may not generate much unique traffic compared to the ammount of bandwidth it requires, so its revenue from adverts will be fairly low compared to how much it pays out for bandwidth.
All of this has so far been taken without considering the time that the admin(s) have to put in to running the game. Back when my game was at its peak popularity, i’d often spend several hours a day responding to players who had problems, questions or suggestions and several more writing new addons for the game. My time is not cheap. If i were being employed by a company, i’d be earning a minimum of £15 an hour and time spent working on my game is time that i’m not spending working for money.
Even considering that I enjoy working on my sites, I still dont see why i should work for free – I do need to eat, drink and pay internet bills. When i look back on the time spent working on my game vs the ammount of profits it made, I don’t think it could have been more than the minimum wage hourly, if i were truely a greedy bastard out to make as much money as possible, i could have spent that time working for an employer, at a much higher hourly rate, with a lot less grief from players and there wouldn’t have been a game.
tl;dr: Stop being so ungrateful. Be thankful that you got to play EP1 for free. If you like the game, support it. If you dont why the **** are you still here? In soviet russia God worships YOU!!!! |
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| Posted On: 12/08/2008 10:29AM |
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matt is such a whiner
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| Posted On: 12/08/2008 2:08PM |
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| Posted On: 12/08/2008 3:06PM |
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