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God doesn't exist you fools.
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Hmm, this thread has gone further than /r9k/ has ever gone. People aren’t just copying **** from wikipedia. good thread imo |
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| Posted On: 12/09/2008 9:39PM |
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Inertia Posted:
I can’t be bothered to actually debate though. It’s getting a little too trolly. |
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| Posted On: 12/09/2008 9:49PM |
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OverclockedJesus Posted: Who says the universe has to be random? What uncertainty am I removing?
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| Posted On: 12/09/2008 9:50PM |
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shrtcat Posted: Not since you-know-who left…
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| Posted On: 12/09/2008 9:50PM |
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The Heisenberg Compensator is how the transporters work in the Star Trek universe. It’s just a tech-device to get around certain things. But we know it’s not real.
That’s all I’m saying. |
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| Posted On: 12/09/2008 9:51PM |
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OverclockedJesus Posted:
How are we certain a multiverse cannot be real, especially if legitimate scientific hypotheses explore its possibility?
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| Posted On: 12/09/2008 9:59PM |
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DarkDespair5 Posted:
I see your point.
But I have to hit the hay anyways. Tomorrow I’ll start posting stuff that will actualy make sense. |
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| Posted On: 12/09/2008 10:01PM |
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DarkDespair5 Posted: Never said it couldn’t be. However, to presume that some would have different laws clearly rules out all interaction. If they have the same laws, I would think they’d be the “infinite possibilities” versions, where each decision we make is played out in different universes. And there’s still no way to have interaction.
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| Posted On: 12/09/2008 10:03PM |
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OverclockedJesus Posted:
This bumumption is beyond your knowledge. Please refute my point using something provable. |
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| Posted On: 12/13/2008 3:02AM |
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Hobart Bliggity Posted: No it isn’t. Please prove that the universe is self-aware, given that awareness is a property only of certain living beings. For awareness requires life—anything to the contrary steals the concept.
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| Posted On: 12/13/2008 8:42AM |
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BUMP, leaving thread |
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| Posted On: 12/14/2008 12:02AM |
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Bondage****
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OverclockedJesus Posted:
So the universe is the source of the universe? How can something be its own source? |
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| Posted On: 12/14/2008 12:08AM |
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The universe is the ground for everything. It is the ontological base. That you’re stuck in some Pythagorean hangover is not my problem, nor is it my concern. |
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| Posted On: 12/14/2008 12:49AM |
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OverclockedJesus Posted:
That you can’t handle thinking about the origin of the universe, which is the backbone of this debate, isn’t my problem either. |
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| Posted On: 12/14/2008 12:51AM |
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That you beg the question that the universe had an origin is not my problem. That you think the universe had an origin is a meaningful concept shows your lack of critical thought and your desire to have a dual-realmist metaphysic.
I can counter everything you write by pointing out your fallacies. And yes: that is the proper way to have this discussion. |
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| Posted On: 12/14/2008 10:45AM |
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So the universe is its own source, and circular logic is entirely appropiate here? Neat. I didn’t know that. Professor Falken edited this message on 12/14/2008 11:32AM |
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| Posted On: 12/14/2008 11:30AM |
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Professor Falken Posted: The universe has no source. It necessarily exists. It is impossible for the universe to come into or go out of existence.
You might want to NOT use strawmen. kthx. |
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| Posted On: 12/14/2008 12:47PM |
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Let’s approach this from a different angle:
Who creates the creator in the first place? There must already be a platform (universe) for anything to occur. DarkDespair5 edited this message on 12/14/2008 6:39PM |
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| Posted On: 12/14/2008 6:37PM |
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OverclockedJesus Posted:
And my dad can beat up your dad. We’re still no closer to an “answer” about God though.
You keep saying that any “God” with supernatural powers contradicts itself by definitoin. Please elaborate on this, as you’ve yet to explain further than “this is a contradiction.” |
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| Posted On: 12/14/2008 6:51PM |
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Hobart Bliggity Posted:
There must be a platform for any form of existence to occur. Also, defnitoin. DarkDespair5 edited this message on 12/14/2008 6:55PM |
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| Posted On: 12/14/2008 6:53PM |
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