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Our top two attacks were nerfed. Severely. This was fine. I was perfectly OK with this. But with the new top-tier forum buffs, this is too much.
Seeing as the top-tier forums were buffed, I had to respec to give more into Ego and Defense. I now have 107 Offense. I can’t break 1700 damage on Zombie Armageddon with ipz. The threads now have, what, 5K, 6K health? It should not take 6-7 turns to kill a single thread on a forum that’s only one level above me, especially when I’m putting as much as I can into offense.
Also, our refresh and Processing Power usage is ****ed up like the ****. Our top two spamable attacks are bg2 and avtr. Bg2 uses 3 processing power and has an attack of 60-80. Avtr uses 10 processing power and has an attack of 100-110. Every other non-challenge clbum gets two 200+ attacks with a refresh of 1. Our only 200+ attack is ipz, which has a refresh of ****ing 6.
This needs to be fixed. Either buff avtr or ipz, because they both suck serious balls. |
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Posted On: 11/28/2008 3:06PM | View BaconSupreme's Profile | # | ||||||
I completely agree with you. |
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Posted On: 11/28/2008 3:09PM | View Benjamini's Profile | # | ||||||
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sounds p terrible |
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Posted On: 11/28/2008 3:10PM | View SIG-ENABLING MOC...'s Profile | # | ||||||
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Yeah, I have to say that “being a Hacker is no longer that appealing.”
Let’s see what Hackers have in their favor: 1) Good stats due to 4 hardware slots.
Let’s see what’s running against Hackers: 1) Long refresh times. 2) Low damage on most attacks. 3) High PP cost on effective attacks. 4) No ability to buff Processing Power without devoting equipment slots to it. 5) Not much processing power restored by the high end consumables. Their most expensive attack only has 15 uses funded by the best consumable they can buy (compared to like 18 for camwhores and 30-something for trolls), and their most expensive attack is weaker than the most expensive attack of the other clbumes, and their most powerful attack is weaker (and has a lower refresh time) than the the most powerful attack of the other clbumes.
I mean, I’m not saying Hackers are woefully underpowered, but I would gladly welcome a nerf to their equipment if it meant that there could be, well, something else interesting about them. Since right now the whole hacker game is: juggling your equipment, healing a lot, and waiting for your skills to refresh.
If I had to do it all over again, I would likely not want to be a hacker in light of the way the game is right now. I would not recommend the clbum to other new players, either. I understand that “before this round of nerfs, Hackers were doing a ton of damage” and they still might do reasonable amounts of damage, but the problem is more that now they are neither particularly fun nor particularly easy to play, which is worthy of some kind of a fix, certainly. Possibly a Cabbage edited this message on 11/28/2008 4:41PM |
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Posted On: 11/28/2008 4:27PM | View Possibly a Cabba...'s Profile | # | ||||||
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Seems like another attack of the EVIL TROUT MONSTER!!!!! |
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Posted On: 11/28/2008 4:31PM | View Xylon's Profile | # | ||||||
Ok, before the second nerf, i was speedrunning the 30+ forums. Now that i am lvl 31 with 135 offense, i cant even hit 1800 with my best attacks. I can no longer pwn any lvl 30+ forums. For you people saying hackers are fine, they are not when i cant even pwn lvl 30+ (i.e keep dying not even halfway through great firewall where as before i spedrun it) forums with 135 offense. Our best attack does the same damage as recipes for disaster, which all clbumes have, while camwhores and trolls have 300 and 350+ attacks and can easily hit 4K+ while hacker damage has been capped to 1800 (and thats with really high offense) not only that, but the PP costs have doubled, and the refresh times are redicoulus with the hacker attacks averaging 5 turns/refresh Arbiter edited this message on 11/28/2008 4:32PM |
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Posted On: 11/28/2008 4:31PM | View Arbiter's Profile | # | ||||||
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Hahahaha hackers got pwned, pretty much a challenge clbum now, not too far off from re-re’s and permanoobs after second huge nerf |
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Posted On: 11/28/2008 4:38PM | View BlackberryiPod's Profile | # | ||||||
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Since when were hackers supposed to be a challenge clbum? Never realized that. Must Have been out that day.
Seriously though, I stopped using my hacker a while ago because it was too easy. Hah!
Hackers were fine before. Yes, we had to devote a slot or two to PP, but we have 4. So ****ing what. Basically, hackers would be fine now with the new buffed forums if they were the way they were before the nerfs.
The only grips I have about Hackers is why the hell PP restores are so expensive? Makes playing with them so stupidly difficult in the beginning because you level really fast and then have attacks you can use only once in a forum before you have to resort to using re-re attacks. And when you finish, now you have to re-equip everything so you can optimize your luck/charisma and get more deliveries, just so you can be able to buy perhaps one or two PP restores in addition to your hardware upgrades, which you may or may not be able to buy since you have to go fix all your equipment, since Hacker equips are about as durable as a dry leaf in a bonfire.
Man, this is why I like hackers. Much more in-depth when they’re not broken. |
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Posted On: 11/28/2008 5:27PM | View Zeta's Profile | # | ||||||
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Zeta Posted:
I were thinking the same thing about PP restores, but at least last rollover I didn’t have to use any Log in to see images! It still annoyed me in the first two days. But meh, its going decently…but I’m still sliiightly screaming in my head to as of why I didn’t pick troll when I were deciding which of the two to use =/ |
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Posted On: 11/28/2008 5:48PM | View Are-'s Profile | # | ||||||
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bump et needs to see this |
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Posted On: 11/28/2008 8:20PM | View BaconSupreme's Profile | # | ||||||
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Are- Posted:
Me too =/ |
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Posted On: 11/28/2008 8:52PM | View Possibly a Cabba...'s Profile | # | ||||||
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I have only one alt, and it’s a hacker.
I’ve used every forum visit I’ve received on it, ever since I created it almost a month ago.
AND I STILL CAN’T EVEN GET TO LEVEL 20. The upper forums are too hard for the consumables I can buy with the ****y little amount of Flezz I get from deliveries, and it levels too damn slow.
And that was before both nerfs! Now the forums are harder and the attacks are weaker? Screw that… I can’t even play the hacker anymore. Too tedious. I think it’s gone through 2 levels now and there are no additional attacks I can use. So the forums and leveling get harder and there are no new attacks to do anything with. And there are no amplifiers like Fap or Racial Tension that trolls have… talk about a rip… >.<
Seriously, I find myself filling the entire bar with attack refreshes sometimes, I even end up going all the way down to ‘scrmbl’ at times (including OBP and Recipes). Log in to see images! |
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Posted On: 11/28/2008 9:02PM | View FalconFour's Profile | # | ||||||
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Possibly a Cabbage Posted:
You didn’t do the decision a few days ago at least Log in to see images! |
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Posted On: 11/28/2008 9:40PM | View Are-'s Profile | # | ||||||
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One thing’s for sure, our best attacks are now far, far too weak to warrent to perposterous amounts of proc. power they now cost to use…
I personally fail to see the balance in the clbum that is supposed to focus on defence’s best attack being 1 refresh and having an attack of 350, while our best attack has a refresh of 6 and an attack of 200-210… That… doesn’t… make… sense…
Yea, hackers are pretty weak now… Log in to see images! Captain Trek edited this message on 11/28/2008 10:02PM |
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Posted On: 11/28/2008 10:01PM | View Captain Trek's Profile | # | ||||||
the problem is that hacker damage is capped at 1800, and thats with highest offense acheivable, with no attacks better than the multiclbum ones, together with ludicrous refresh rates and buffed forums |
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Posted On: 11/29/2008 2:32AM | View Arbiter's Profile | # | ||||||
Oh give me a break. You must have a screwy build to be dying on lv 30 forums. I pwned second wife since the forum buff using only one caffinated mint and you are two levels higher than me. |
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Posted On: 11/29/2008 2:44AM | View nameless's Profile | # | ||||||
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Just got done pwning firewall. It wasn’t hard, or interesting but this sticks out: “Time Spent in forum: 891s”.
Holy goddess was that tedious. The outcome was never in doubt, it just takes forever when your attacks are only doing 200-400 damage to threads who have 6000 ego. |
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Posted On: 11/29/2008 4:26AM | View Possibly a Cabba...'s Profile | # | ||||||
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Sounds like hacker have it really tough now, I would be lost without my spamable hi powered attacks I hope trolls don’t get a nerf like this. |
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Posted On: 11/29/2008 5:14AM | View greggcarson's Profile | # | ||||||
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Are- Posted:
That’s why you do what I did. Save your money and buy a ****load of BP and make and alt of each clbum. I would play my hacker more, but the nerfs make it a bit boring and grindy. If I wanted annoying grinding, I would go play maplestory or some ****. |
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Posted On: 11/29/2008 6:53PM | View Zeta's Profile | # | ||||||
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Why fix what isn’t broken? |
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Posted On: 11/29/2008 7:28PM | View Healbot's Profile | # | ||||||