Veer Posted:

there’s a difference between Mbum Effect and Forumwarz

in that one game is nonlinear and large and expansive

First, large and expansive are synonyms in this context.

Second, the only non-linear aspects of Mbum Effect are in optional side-quests and what order you do the main missions in.

Veer Posted:

and the other is linear as hell with little to no choice and only one difficulty: v easy

FW is admittedly lacking in optional side-quests, but you are free to do many of the missions in whatever order you so choose. There are clbum-specific missions, and I’ve little doubt that episode 3 will give alignment a larger role in the game.

Further, which clbum you choose greatly changes the style of play.

How about FF7? You can’t make any meaningful changes to the plot there, it only provides the v easy difficulty level, it has comparable levels of missable content, it’s drastically more linear, and it doesn’t even provide the benefit of multiple clbumes for the leader. Don’t bother bringing up the switchable party members; we all know Cait Sith was only slightly more of a useless joke than most of the cast.

Really, it doesn’t matter what game I compare it to. The fact is that you would object to having to pay to replay another game, so why is FW any different?

Also, if you don’t LIKE FW, then why are you even here to object to this suggestion in the first place?

Clearly, there are many significant flaws in your arguments, and these call the validity of your objections into question.

Veer Posted:

a replay mechanic for forumwarz is a stupid idea

I always wonder why people object to suggestions without even trying to provide any valid arguments against the idea.

Yes, we understand you don’t like the idea, but if it’s something you don’t have to use then why try to attack it?

So can you just answer the question “why”?

XSS Code Posted:

Why exactly is it stupid? I for one would like to replay it for something to do since I’m not a domwhore.

QFT.

XSS Code Posted:

Also, maybe give a option to get rid of cheating devices, taking the flag off your account?

This sounds mostly reasonable, since only Dolphin could directly carry over through a remort. However, a player could use 69 forum visits to bash through the storyline and hit the level cap very quickly. By doing this repeatedly they could quickly rack up a lot of point bonuses.

To prevent this, I propose that people who buy forum visits be prevented from remorting for 60 days, thus making it far slower to cheat your way to a high bonus than to do it legitimately.

As far as Flezz goes, the most they can do with that is buy equipment. Not a significant issue.

Veer Posted:

if you want to play as another clbum you have to pay for an alt.

Alts get 4 forum visits per day each. That’s on of the reasons why they cost 3bp each.

Veer Posted:

and a game like FF7 is way different from forumwarz

This doesn’t actually do anything against my general argument of ”’Pay $X to play a GAME you bought for the first time, and $X/3 every time you want to replay it.’ is a stupid policy.”

Veer Posted:

if you want to replay this game fine, but do not implement any benefits for doing so. no stat gains or the like. no special items. no changing clbumes, just replaying the quests.

I can vaguely understand why you might oppose stat gains, but objecting to clbum changes is just silly.

I still fail to see why you object to this proposal, since it’s just changes to a single-player game that give people options. It’s not like FW is really multi-player or anything.

Ah, I see, you didn’t actually read the suggestion.

I suggested a 1bp cost to add another clbum onto the list of clbumes you’re allowed to play as. That is paying.

scullyangel Posted:

Why does everyone try to compare ForumWarz to KoL? They are nothing alike and it just results in troll-like posting. For the record, anyone who thinks ascension was a bad thing for KoL is ridiculous and hadn’t spent a year using turns at the shore with literally nothing else to do.

Since I have no interest in domination, that’s basically what I’m looking forward to once I hit the level cap.

That’s kinda why I want there to be remorting in the game.

scullyangel Posted:

This is seriously off base and makes me think you’ve read about KoL but never actually played it.

Yes, read about it AFTER people accused me of ripping it off. I noticed that there was some text on their wiki about getting items that grant permanent stat boosts on returning from the afterlife, but that might have been just poor wording.

scullyangel Posted:

In FWZ terms that would be a camwhore “ascending” into a hacker in order to take the ipz attack.

Cross-clbuming has been bantered about for quite awhile, but I really doubt it will ever actually happen in FW. Needless to say, that’s not a part of this suggestion.

scullyangel Posted:

This could be a decent idea if we hit the end of Episode 3 and CZ decides to integrate some sort of pvp or klan vs klan endgame where it mattered and was thus worth the effort. Even then at 4 visits per day I just don’t see it being worth it unless each replay permanently unlocked access to everything from that clbum.

I think being allowed to carry over some equipment would be enough, provided that they make more troll/glbumes situations.

scullyangel Posted:

Your idea of getting a +1 bonus via replay, the end game situation has no need for it. Maybe you aren’t seeing it because you haven’t hit the level cap, but I can one or two shot every thread in every forum with every clbum except permanoob (not saying they can’t, I just don’t have one.) There simply is no reason to grind through the game over and over for +1. You cannot one shot things faster no matter how much you bump them.

... which is why I’ve been saying that it’s not unbalanced. It does two things; it lets you know how many times you’ve played through the game, and it gives you a slightly better leg-up on the early levels of each cycle.

Yes, there IS no point to grinding through the game over and over for a +1 bonus, and people who love the endgame aren’t going to take a month out of domination for something that’s useless to them

scullyangel Posted:

Could it make a difference for Episode 3? Yes, I can see that, but CZ has said they don’t want players to go into Episode 3 with a big advantage, thus the level cap. It’s really clear that gathering .moar files is the built in way for players to get an advantage going into future gameplay.

My current stats:

Offense 50

Defense 52

Luck 38

Frugality 18

Charisma 55

Upkeep 6

That’s a total of 219 points. If I spent the next year doing nothing but grinding for +1 bonuses for some absurd reason, then I would get a bonus of between 10 and 15 points. Grinding Geronimo for rare .moar files would get me far more than twice that bonus in a tenth the time. I think it goes without saying that it’s impossible for this suggestion to unbalance things for episode 3.

scullyangel Posted:

Looking at replay for the sake of trying other clbumes, I know part of your argument is that you paid for Ep 2 and want to try other clbumes, but just get an alt.

Camwhore

Troll

Emokid

Hacker

Permanoob

Re-re

To get an alt for each would cost 15bp, and would result in me getting a total of 24 forum visits a day. That puts more load on the game’s servers, and gives people an advantage in Domination.

My proposal puts no additional load on the servers, and doesn’t give people an advantage in domination. Although it would only cost about 3 or 4BP total to get all the clbumes, it doesn’t give all the benefits that alts do.

scullyangel Posted:

When you signed up for the site you were very clearly given a choice of clbumes as your free character. One of the only ways CZ brings in bonus money is via BPs. 3 BPs is in fact not a lot of money and if you like the game enough to want to play it over and over, you should consider supporting the game by picking up a few BPs in order to try out the other clbumes if that is how you want to play.

I did mention that my idea would involve paying CZ for bp, right?

Edit: Too tired to think and/or type.

I believe this would be a great option for those people who dislike the multiplayer options provided. While I doubt I’d ever make use of it (at 4 forum visits a day), if someone wants to start over for a +1 stat increase and an ePeen, more power to them.

SimplyTHEBEST Posted:

There seems to be a miscommunication.

The remort would be free, and picking your old clbum would be free.

What would cost BP is being allowed to pick another clbum. Also, once you had played as a clbum you would be allowed to remort as that clbum for free.

Is that worded better?

Hell, this could even play into the hybrid clbumes ET promised us at the end of EP1.

Possibly a Cabbage Posted:

Won’t Evil Trout already let you delete your account as one clbum and start a new account as a different clbum if you ask him nicely? I don’t see how what the OP is asking for is really substantively different than this other than it’s automated. I mean, I agree that if you’re sick of being an Emo Kid and you want to try being a Troll and you can’t get your hands on BP for some reason, it’s reasonable to let you trash your Emo Kid and become a Troll. But constantly regrinding through the game since it gives you some kind of benefit each time you do it? I’ve really had enough of that in other games.

Nope. I have 2 alts I would like to just reset back to level 1 but there is no way it can be done at the moment. I would like to try the premanoob clbum, but I am not going to “upgrade” my current re-re.

Which is why I like this idea Log in to see images!

This is all one giant troll and doesnt belong here

Hobart Bliggity Posted:

This is all one giant troll and doesnt belong here

Coming from a horrible troll, it makes sense youd say that.

CrinkzPipe was banned for this post by Evil Trout

Also, being able to carry abilities over would mess-up hybrid clbumes if they ever make it into the game.