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Let's Tune up Episode 2! <Spoilers Galore!> | |||||||
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So most of the major game breaking issues have been addressed at this point, and we are down to mostly low priority issues and new features.
I understand there are some issues with the game economy that are out of whack, and I’d like to discuss them with you guys in this thread. First and foremost, I know that people are earning way more Flezz than they should be, so that will probably be addressed first.
In another thread, Orb said he finds grinding from 10-20 frustrating. I’ll take a look at how smooth that goes too.
What else is off guys?
Remember, detail is important here. Explain what it is about the game’s balance or economy you don’t like, and why you think it should be fixed. Ideally, a suggested fix would be good, but feel free to allow others to discuss.
Let’s keep this conversation civil. Name calling / trolling will be an instant ban.
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Posted On: 10/26/2008 3:25PM | View Evil Trout's Profile | # | ||||||
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I dislike how the jump from Episode 1 to Episode 2 occurs.
Church of Sayintology is level 12, and yet Amish Gone Wilde and Trident Media are 15/13 repsectively. I understand you don’t need to initially pwn Amish Gone Wilde to complete Amishcidal Maniac but it seems counterproductive not too. Perhaps introduce the Quest for Sayintology earlier so there is a place to do before the initial 2 missions? Also, Surgeries don’t get damaged, which is sort of reasonable, but just putting that out there. |
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Posted On: 10/26/2008 3:30PM | View Master_Troll's Profile | # | ||||||
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-There are little endgame items at around level 21 I had maxed out everything, shoes are weak as hell now.
-After level 27 there are little moves to earn.
-Gamble-Bot-9000’s bets are now useless to the liberal elite like me, only giving me 10 scoops a day.
-THE_**** needs more roids to sell.
-We need more Billie she was awesome.
-XSS are unbalanced in comparison to rewards.
-I get the same Junk every day. |
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Posted On: 10/26/2008 3:30PM | View 7VibratingLangst...'s Profile | # | ||||||
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i don’t see any problem yet at least as a troll
10-19 has been incredibly easy and most of my equip is pre-episode 2 |
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Posted On: 10/26/2008 3:31PM | View gigerth's Profile | # | ||||||
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As to the level 10 – 20 grind. I very much disagree with the 17 – 20 (Obscure is a perfect grinder there and it’s silly to think anyone can’t afford consumables to overrun their level if they want to level grind.)
I think a couple of community forums with a slightly shorter thread count (5 – 7 thread range) that deliver cred in a manner similar to Obscure or Teen Mommies (only scaled for that level slot obviously) would fix this completely. Something at about 18 power would be perfect.
Also, I’m sure I’m not the only one who reported it, but lingerie still taking no damage. scully edited this message on 10/26/2008 3:45PM |
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Posted On: 10/26/2008 3:36PM | View scully's Profile | # | ||||||
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I started ep 2 at level 15 with almost maxed out equipment as a camwhore. It was moderately easy, now as for my Perma-Noob it is jaw droppingly boring though it should speed up after I get my next attacks. |
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Posted On: 10/26/2008 3:36PM | View 7VibratingLangst...'s Profile | # | ||||||
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gigerth Posted:
Curious. What forums have you been grinding for 10-19, and on which clbumes? |
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Posted On: 10/26/2008 3:37PM | View Orb's Profile | # | ||||||
Something that’s been frustrating me for ages and really is below par is your buying/selling interface. It’s a subject that’s been brought up many times and there’s always something else that gets higher priority, and while that’s certainly understandable, the result is that we still have to check individual boxes to sell items, and resort to Arktor’s trick (which doesn’t work on all browsers even) to buy multiple of them. If I want to buy/sell 100 of an item, I want to type 100 into a box and be done with it.
Secondly, people will want to raid again soon, and currently it’s not possible to monitor all forums on any character. Make it so upon completing the game you can see who holds which forum, even the ones your particular clbum can’t enter. With the higher solo vanilla reward, it would also make sense to give access to the domination tab to characters who aren’t klanned.
That’s just off the top of my head, probably more coming up later. |
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Posted On: 10/26/2008 3:39PM | View SG94's Profile | # | ||||||
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You need to appoint INCIT-Czars, to add pictures and remove bad ones. You keep jamming INCIT down our thoughts through THE_**** and “You have died, try INCIT” messages so you might as well fix it up. We need more than just the mods doing it. We need a fleet.
I would vote Orb as the Czar, and have him add what people he thinks is best. |
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Posted On: 10/26/2008 3:41PM | View 7VibratingLangst...'s Profile | # | ||||||
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Evil Trout Posted:
Noticed this with my hacker (and permanoob, but that’s supposed to be frustrating). Perhaps toning down the effect of being underleveled for a thread, or capping it somehow would help? Like, say I’m trying to beat a level 20 thread, so at level 19 there’s x gimping on my attacks etc. at level 18 there’s 2x, 17 has 3x or whatever, but then cap it there, so a level 15 character will still find it harder to beat this tough forum, but not ridiculously so.
It’s possible this is already being done – I’ve not really looked into it, but a nerf here couldn’t hurt. Basically the system is fairly balanced for episode 1, so as long as you do a little grinding you’ll probably get by with being 1 level under the thread you’re trying to beat, but once you hit episode 2 (which I did at level 9) there’s this jump to a level 13 forum, then another to a level 15, with no easier forums appearing in the story for a little while.
SG94 Posted: Also, please, please, please do these. Adeptus edited this message on 10/26/2008 3:43PM |
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Posted On: 10/26/2008 3:42PM | View Adeptus's Profile | # | ||||||
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Orb Posted:
clbum is troll
here’s a pastie of all forums i’ve visited since i started ep2 http://pastie.org/300941
e: that’s not a very good representation of it so i just took a screenshot: Log in to see images! http://www.picamatic.com/show/2008/10/26/10/48/1251407_615x1004.png gigerth edited this message on 10/26/2008 3:53PM |
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Posted On: 10/26/2008 3:48PM | View gigerth's Profile | # | ||||||
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Adeptus, that would be fine except that with enough consumables it becomes insanely easy to overrun your level. A big pile of consumables and a level 15 character could take on something like Teem Mommies and gain levels in one really long, tedious visit. |
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Posted On: 10/26/2008 3:49PM | View scully's Profile | # | ||||||
Would love to see some kind of ‘trade-in value’ on the various shop interfaces, to make it simpler for those of us without a ton of flezz at any particular moment to buy a better whatever and thus eliminate the bookmarks -> store (to check prices) -> bookmarks -> pawn shop/sell item(s) -> bookmarks -> store/buy item(s) process. |
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Posted On: 10/26/2008 3:50PM | View Ball Soup's Profile | # | ||||||
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scullyangel Posted:
yeah we’re (i’m) not saying grinding is hard, i’m saying it’s boooooooooooooooooooring. Log in to see images!
also why is the job board closed on saturdays anyway, it’s not like i’ve got anything better to do Log in to see images! |
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Posted On: 10/26/2008 3:52PM | View Tesfan's Profile | # | ||||||
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scullyangel Posted:
Well, the idea was kinda bumuming that the whole flezz economy should get a mbumive pruning back at some point too, which’d stop that. You’re right that it’s a terrible idea without some other measures in place first though. Oh well, maybe it’ll trigger someone else’s synapses for new ideas. |
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Posted On: 10/26/2008 3:52PM | View Adeptus's Profile | # | ||||||
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i still don’t know why people are complaining about the grinding, i pretty much only had to do the missions and a few of herschel’s pwn jobs for money to get by maybe it’s different for other clbumes but trolls should have no problems |
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Posted On: 10/26/2008 3:54PM | View gigerth's Profile | # | ||||||
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gigerth Posted:
Hmmm. Impressive. And this from starting at level 10? |
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Posted On: 10/26/2008 3:59PM | View Orb's Profile | # | ||||||
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gigerth Posted:
yo i don’t mean to sound like an impatient two-year old maybe i’m doing something wrong but it feels like i’m having to do a ton of job board missions just to keep up with the forum difficulties |
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Posted On: 10/26/2008 4:01PM | View Tesfan's Profile | # | ||||||
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I think the cred started me out at 12 but it shouldn’t make that much of a difference
e: @tesfan maybe your stats are messed up, i only have to use maybe 3-6 consumables for the really hard ones, but that’s another topic entirely gigerth edited this message on 10/26/2008 4:03PM |
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Posted On: 10/26/2008 4:01PM | View gigerth's Profile | # | ||||||
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gigerth Posted:
No, that wouldn’t have made much of a difference. I’m just amazed because I’d imagine you’d start at a higher level than that. Even my Permanoob started at level 13, and I haven’t really played with that since I beat Coral Springs. |
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Posted On: 10/26/2008 4:04PM | View Orb's Profile | # | ||||||