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DeadMcMahon

Avatar: Sad Face

Level 10 Emo Kid

“Gloomy Gus”

man it’s too bad Death Merchant is a total idiot or I would defend him more.

I mean, you should probably read CAD before springing to its defense.

1338h4x

Avatar: 22473 Sat Nov 29 21:01:08 -0500 2008
5

[Crotch Zombie]

Level 35 Troll

7 Vibrating Doldoes was never a meme

TeeKayEff Posted:

What point are you trying to prove here because it sounds like you’re just rambling on in a fit of internet rage.

Never thought I would hear a TSBfabulous person say that.

TeeKayEff

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13

[Team Shortbus]

Level 34 Troll

“Problem Child IV”

Death Merchant Posted:

I hope you’re kidding, especially after the length you put into your post.

Getting angry at text is pretty stupid, the only point I was making is you aren’t always right, I figure thats a life lesson everyone needs to learn at some point.

If you want to teach us that we aren’t always right, you should take the opportunity to defend a ****ty comic you’ve never read. It’d be better to call us out on our Neo-Nazi sentiments and large stashes of cocaine.

Also, I’m not sure if you completely comprehended my fourth point so let me reiterate it for you:

Ok, so I’ll bet some people just said “That’s it, I’m not reading this comic anymore!”, and that’s fine, I respect that decision. Thank you for reading.

For the rest of you, I’m sure you’re curious about my motivations for this particular turn of events. I know some of you remember (because you’ve been emailing me about it) a few months ago I said I was going to talk about the pregnancy storyline, and then I never did. I never did because I knew that when we got to this point in the story I was going to have to talk about it, and since I’d be saying pretty much the same thing in both instances, I chose to just wait until now.

One of the common themes I heard was “Why are there comics about pregnancy? This is supposed to be a gaming comic!”

I know that everybody has their own idea of what Ctrl+Alt+Del is “supposed” to be. Some people feel it’s a video game comic and the character stories are just filler, or don’t belong, and some people think it’s a story comic and the one-shots are just filler. Most times it’s categorized as a “gaming comic”, which is fine and understandable. When asked directly though, I describe Ctrl+Alt+Del as a “gamer comic” or “a comic about gamers”. Semantics, perhaps, but an important distinction for me. While the strip has always and will always have its foundation firmly rooted in gaming, it’s not the only topic I want to tell jokes and stories about.

Telling different stories, switching back and forth between storylines and one-shots, and not restricting myself to one genre/categorization is what keeps me interested in creating the comic. I can spend a few weeks telling a story, and then when it ends, rather then having to launch into another story arc, I can do a bunch of one-shots about, well, whatever I feel like. What’s in the news, what new games I’m playing, silly stuff, movies, anything. Then I get recharged and start itching to tell another story, and so it goes, back and forth. None of it is “filler”, it’s all as much a part of what makes up Ctrl+Alt+Del as anything else.

Same thing with the non-game-related story arcs. The characters in the strip are gamers, and so they have a pbumion for video games, and a lot of what they do and talk about focuses around games. But being a gamer is not the only thing that makes up a person’s life, and there are a lot of experiences people go through whether they’re a gamer or not. That’s why I don’t love the “gaming comic” categorization, because it gives the impression that video games are the only topic that belongs. I can’t argue with the categorization, because there is clearly a very heavy video game theme in the comic, but I also don’t have to restrict myself to the categorization either, if that makes sense.

On the other hand, I’m sure the people who were complaining “Waiter, there’s some plot in my gaming comic!” already left at the beginning of the newspost.

Another one I heard a few months ago was “If they have a baby then the comic strip will become all about parenting and not gaming/It will be BabyFest 24/7Ethan will get totally serious and grown up!”

If a baby was introduced to the strip, Ctrl+Alt+Del would not suddenly convert into a parenting comic strip, with changing diapers every other strip, etc. This is a comic, and I don’t need to show every mundane detail of these characters’ lives. They are rarely seen eating, and I’ve never shown them going to the bathroom. Do you think that they just never ****? Of course not. It’s just naturally bumumed that some everyday stuff goes on around whatever is shown in the comic. Same thing with a baby (Yes, I’m comparing parenting to ****ting. Can you tell I’m not a Dad?). There would of course be some baby-centric storylines now and then, but nothing says it has to take over the whole strip.

Becoming a parent changes people, without a doubt. But it doesn’t necessarily change people into responsible, uptight working stiffs with no sense of humor. Especially in comicstripland. If Ethan became a father, there would be some changes, some forced growth. But he’d still be Ethan.

Here’s one I think I heard mentioned a while back, and that I anticipate being mentioned: “Tim will never do a miscarriage because then the comic strip will become all sad and depressing”.

Again, I disagree. A miscarriage is definitely not a joke, and I have no intention of making light of it. And it can be a tough and emotional thing for couples to go through, speaking from personal experience. And I know that it’s often much harder on the woman than on the man. However, I also know that it doesn’t necessarily turn you into a sad, depressed sack of tears for the rest of your life. People can move past it, and heal.

This falls in with what I was just saying above. Yes, a miscarriage is a very sad occurance. But nothing dictates that I now need to follow Ethan and Lilah through every second of their sad emotions, putting us right in the middle of it where, yes, it would be a bit depressing. There are a number of supporting characters in the strip through which I can tell the story, or I could break away completely with some one-shots and come back to join the characters post-ground-zero, when the pain isn’t so fresh, to show how they handle it.

Now I’m sure some of you are wondering what my motivations were for this particular story path.

As I’ve said in the past, the grand plan for the comic and its characters has been written for years. I knew that (and how) Ethan was going to propose to Lilah when I introduced her into the comic. I knew when he proposed that shortly before the wedding Lilah was going to get pregnant and then miscarry, and I had to wait two years to write it. I know what happens next, and I know how they handle it. I know what happens even further down the line. I know what Scott is doing in his room. I know who moves out and when. I know who dies and who doesn’t die. And I know that, through all of it, Ethan is still Ethan, Lilah is still Lilah, and Lucas is still Lucas, and they are all still gamers.

And more importantly, I know that I have a storyline that can keep the comic going for a long, long time, and most importantly, keep me anxious to write the next part for you. Because for me, there needs to be more there than just playing games. The characters and their lives need to be interesting enough that I want to keep writing about them while they play the games.

So in part, this just serves to set up the next part of the story. On a base level, it’s just a good twist. Conflict makes for interesting story.

On a deeper level, I really have a desire to stress test Ethan and Lilah’s relationship, to see if there is really something there that would keep them together despite Ethan’s antics, and I decided that this was the best way to go about it. I know from personal experience what it can do to a relationship. Some many years ago, long before I started the comic, I was in a relationship and we suffered a miscarriage. Now, this relationship was toxic to begin with and doomed to fail regardless, so that the miscarriage was the straw that broke the camel’s back came as no surprise. It was a pregnancy neither of us wanted in the first place, so the event didn’t effect me nearly as much as it would, say, a couple who was trying for a child. Still, I saw the emotions it can bring up first hand, and I saw how it could truly hurt someone. It’s a tough thing to handle because it’s nobody’s fault. There’s nobody you can blame.

It can cause a rift in a relationship without someone having to be the “bad guy”, as in infidelity or lying. And I wanted to see if and how Ethan and Lilah’s relationship could weather it.

And also… I wanted to see if I could write it. If I could pull it off. Call it creative curiosity, I guess.

So, that’s all I really have to say on the subject. Read on, or don’t, that’s your call.

DeadMcMahon

Avatar: Sad Face

Level 10 Emo Kid

“Gloomy Gus”

1338h4x Posted:

Never thought I would hear a TSBfabulous person say that.

Good job- “hearing” over the internet

Death Mercha-
nt

Avatar: Death Merchant's Avatar
6

Level 10 Troll

“Pain in the ASCII”

DeadMcMahon Posted:

man it’s too bad Death Merchant is a total idiot or I would defend him more.

I mean, you should probably read CAD before springing to its defense.

That hurts, someone not in TSB called me an idiot.. Oh wait, you were in TSB before too, nevermind.

TeeKayEff

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13

[Team Shortbus]

Level 34 Troll

“Problem Child IV”

Death Merchant Posted:

That hurts, someone not in TSB called me an idiot.. Oh wait, you were in TSB before too, nevermind.

Yeah, I figured that after I asked everyone in TSB to defend my point in IRC and that wasn’t enough, I had to ask a few ex-members to help me too.

o0-M00N_KriK-
37-0o

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[Team Shortbus]

Level 35 Camwhore

“Legs Wide Open”

TeeKayEff Posted:

Yeah, I figured that after I asked everyone in TSB to defend my point in IRC and that wasn’t enough, I had to ask a few ex-members to help me too.

i’m still waiting on my bp by the way Log in to see images!

Fran

Avatar: 34789 2011-12-20 18:11:44 -0500
40

[A Beautiful Place -
Out in the Country
]

Level 62 Camwhore

Manphin's Prehensile male reproductive organ Was Here.

Does anyone still care about Death Merchant? He just attempts to troll stuff with overused memes.

I can even predict him: “LOLURFAT”.

Also, I don’t really like CAD but that’s only me.

Fran edited this message on 07/08/2008 10:33PM

Tesfan

Avatar: 17396 2011-07-31 06:49:56 -0400
3

[Team Shortbus]

Level 35 Troll

Sucks **** through a straw in the face of convention

disregard

Tesfan edited this message on 07/08/2008 10:55PM

Death Mercha-
nt

Avatar: Death Merchant's Avatar
6

Level 10 Troll

“Pain in the ASCII”

Fran Posted:

Does someone still care about Death Merchant? He just attempts to troll stuff with overused meme.

I can even predict him: “LOLURFAT”.

Also, I don’t really like CAD but that’s only me.

No one ever cared about me.

And trolls use what works, if you weren’t sensitive about your weight that fat thing wouldn’t matter.

Oh, and good call by the way, because I type like that… You must really be paying attention.

TeeKayEff

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13

[Team Shortbus]

Level 34 Troll

“Problem Child IV”

Tesfan Posted:

But, I can’t speak for everyone, which is probably why clbumifying people by klans instead of individual personality fails as an insult. Log in to see images!

It was a pretty effective tactic for the judges of the Nuremburg Trials.

After all, we’re all just following orders from the TSB figurehead Nanahitlergoering.

TeeKayEff edited this message on 07/08/2008 10:36PM

scully

Avatar: 12797 2011-08-15 04:41:50 -0400
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[Good Omens]

Level 69 Camwhore

I'd build a road in gold just to have some dreaming...

This thread has been way more interesting than expected!

Thanks for the suggestions so far. Log in to see images!

SirIsaac

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2

[Team Shortbus]

Level 9 Troll

WHSOutcast at gmail dot com

No, but you type like someone with a minimal understanding of English.

and why is DeadMc acting so smug? He’s the one who got kicked from TSB.

BirdofPrey

Avatar: 2037 Sun May 10 02:46:48 -0400 2009
10

[Team Shortbus]

Level 10 Troll

I lick her up afterwards (After her great times session too! Yum!)

i insult stupid people because i find them repulsive not because i am in tsb.

Fran

Avatar: 34789 2011-12-20 18:11:44 -0500
40

[A Beautiful Place -
Out in the Country
]

Level 62 Camwhore

Manphin's Prehensile male reproductive organ Was Here.

Death Merchant Posted:

No one ever cared about me.

And trolls use what works, if you weren’t sensitive about your weight that fat thing wouldn’t matter.

Guess what: I’m not. You insist on using that because you see people on TSB using it.

Good thing you like them so much, amirite.

DeadMcMahon

Avatar: Sad Face

Level 10 Emo Kid

“Gloomy Gus”

SirIsaac Posted:

No, but you type like someone with a minimal understanding of English.

and why is DeadMc acting so smug? He’s the one who got kicked from TSB.

I didn’t get kicked from TSB; everyone did.

Besides, my reasons mirror BoP. I make fun of him because he’s wrong.

Death Mercha-
nt

Avatar: Death Merchant's Avatar
6

Level 10 Troll

“Pain in the ASCII”

Fran Posted:

Guess what: I’m not. You insist on using that because you see people on TSB using it.

Good thing you like them so much, amirite.

I wouldn’t even use flamebate if not for TSB, they get ****ed off at me and troll me.

Oh, and incase you didn’t know you’re part of them.

Tesfan

Avatar: 17396 2011-07-31 06:49:56 -0400
3

[Team Shortbus]

Level 35 Troll

Sucks **** through a straw in the face of convention

DeadMcMahon Posted:

I didn’t get kicked from TSB; everyone did.

Besides, my reasons mirror BoP. I make fun of him because he’s wrong.

what that makes no sense

dude just stop talking your making my head hurt

TeeKayEff

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13

[Team Shortbus]

Level 34 Troll

“Problem Child IV”

Death Merchant Posted:

Oh, and incase you didn’t know you’re part of them.

Ad hominem.

Fran

Avatar: 34789 2011-12-20 18:11:44 -0500
40

[A Beautiful Place -
Out in the Country
]

Level 62 Camwhore

Manphin's Prehensile male reproductive organ Was Here.

Death Merchant Posted:

I wouldn’t even use flamebate if not for TSB, they get ****ed off at me and troll me.

Oh, and incase you didn’t know you’re part of them.

I like to refer stuff in third person, but thanks mr. Captain Obvious.

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