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TeeKayEff

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[Team Shortbus]

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“Problem Child IV”

nanathunderjesus gets you LIGHTNING IN YOUR FIST Posted:

SATURDAY MORNING BREAKFAST CEREAL

Strong second to bookmark SMBC, that comic’s the ****. I stopped reading after Nana’s post so I don’t know if these have been mentioned yet:

Dinosaur Comics – A fairly popular one, each comic has the same exact panel layout, but with changes in the dialogue. Updated several times a week, funny stuff.

Married to the Sea – By the makers of Natalie Dee and Toothpaste For Dinner, old pictures and advertisements are spiced up with new words and captions. Updated daily, very funny stuff.

Perry Bible Fellowship – Rarely updated, but seriously funny.

Pear-Pear – No words, but plenty of suspense, drama, and meaning. Just an awesome comic. Updated weekly or bi-weekly.

Hyper Death Babies – A collection of equally hilarious webcomics. All have been discontinued except Anomaly, which is updated sporadically. Comics by Charles is probably my favorite, but they’re all fantastic.

Minus – An artistic webcomic painted entirely by hand about a girl who controls the universe. Imagine Harold and the Purple Crayon on a small dose of mescaline. Can be funny in a heartfelt or inspiring way; you may recognize one of its comics as it is reposted on /b/ occasionally. It ended this week, sadly, but it’s great to look back and read through. Simply beautiful stuff.

TeeKayEff

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[Team Shortbus]

Level 34 Troll

“Problem Child IV”

Death Merchant Posted:

Despite what you think your opinion isn’t absolute.

Anyway, heres a top comic list.

http://topwebcomics.com/

Scan that for things.

It’s widely accepted that CAD is a piece of ****.

Death Mercha-
nt

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Level 10 Troll

“Pain in the ASCII”

TeeKayEff Posted:

It’s widely accepted that CAD is a piece of ****.

Yeah thats why it has an animated series and is better known. Makes sense.

BirdofPrey

Avatar: 2037 Sun May 10 02:46:48 -0400 2009
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[Team Shortbus]

Level 10 Troll

I lick her up afterwards (After her great times session too! Yum!)

Death Merchant Posted:

Yeah thats why it has an animated series and is better known. Makes sense.

hahaha are you serious?

edit – i mean, are you serious that the fact is has an animated series and is better known proves it is not a piece of ****?

BirdofPrey edited this message on 07/08/2008 9:55PM

1338h4x

Avatar: 22473 Sat Nov 29 21:01:08 -0500 2008
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[Crotch Zombie]

Level 35 Troll

7 Vibrating Doldoes was never a meme

CAD suddenly becomes funny sometimes when you cut out the middle two panels.

Anyway another one I forgot about until now (and am now rereading) is The Book of Biff. A lot of them are fairly hit or miss, though.

1338h4x edited this message on 07/08/2008 9:58PM

Death Mercha-
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Level 10 Troll

“Pain in the ASCII”

BirdofPrey Posted:

hahaha are you serious?

edit – i mean, are you serious that the fact is has an animated series and is better known proves it is not a piece of ****?

Yeah it does, whether you like it or not it makes money, if no one liked it it wouldn’t, oh and seriously, you TSB need to stop defending each other.

TeeKayEff

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[Team Shortbus]

Level 34 Troll

“Problem Child IV”

Death Merchant Posted:

Yeah thats why it has an animated series and is better known. Makes sense.

You know what else has an animated series and is widely known?

Garfield.

Death Mercha-
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Level 10 Troll

“Pain in the ASCII”

TeeKayEff Posted:

You know what else has an animated series and is widely known?

Garfield.

Once again, “it wouldn’t exist if people didn’t like it.”

elenaratelim-
it

Avatar: 24791 2010-03-21 18:12:06 -0400
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[Team Shortbus]

Level 44 Troll

chica bonita

1338h4x Posted:

Link to archive?

was a fail on my part

http://www.sexylosers.com

elenaratelimit edited this message on 07/08/2008 10:05PM

Veer

Avatar: 2059 Thu Nov 13 08:18:14 -0500 2008
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[Team Shortbus]

Level 32 Troll

my only complaint is that you people are happy

TeeKayEff Posted:

You know what else has an animated series and is widely known?

Garfield.

i ****ing love garfield

almost as much as i love comics about miscarriages

BirdofPrey

Avatar: 2037 Sun May 10 02:46:48 -0400 2009
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[Team Shortbus]

Level 10 Troll

I lick her up afterwards (After her great times session too! Yum!)

Death Merchant Posted:

Once again, “it wouldn’t exist if people didn’t like it.”

he didn’t say noone likes it. he said it’s a piece of ****. look around you, a good amount of the general public likes ****. that doesn’t make it anything more than ****.

i understand you like CAD, but if you weren’t an idiot your love of CAD would be a guilty pleasure and not at all something defensible.

TeeKayEff

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[Team Shortbus]

Level 34 Troll

“Problem Child IV”

Death Merchant Posted:

If something is well known and makes money, it is quality gold etc.

This is a terrible argument for many reasons. I don’t even need to show you my reasoning because I feel it would be better expressed through examples:

1. McDonalds and any other fast food franchises. They make lots of money. Everyone knows who they are. I’d rather go to a small, single location steakhouse, as the food is much better. CAD is McDonalds.

2. Garfield, as I said before. Piece of **** comic, but very well known. Much like CAD.

3. Fallout Boy. I’m pretty sure someone out there likes them, and they sure are well known, but what do you know! Their music is very, very bad. If I wanted to listen to good music, I’d listen to the Cardiacs instead of Fallout Boy, much like how I’d read Pear-Pear instead of CAD when I want to read a good comic.

4. Ok, so I’ll bet some people just said “That’s it, I’m not reading this comic anymore!”, and that’s fine, I respect that decision. Thank you for reading.

For the rest of you, I’m sure you’re curious about my motivations for this particular turn of events. I know some of you remember (because you’ve been emailing me about it) a few months ago I said I was going to talk about the pregnancy storyline, and then I never did. I never did because I knew that when we got to this point in the story I was going to have to talk about it, and since I’d be saying pretty much the same thing in both instances, I chose to just wait until now.

One of the common themes I heard was “Why are there comics about pregnancy? This is supposed to be a gaming comic!”

I know that everybody has their own idea of what Ctrl+Alt+Del is “supposed” to be. Some people feel it’s a video game comic and the character stories are just filler, or don’t belong, and some people think it’s a story comic and the one-shots are just filler. Most times it’s categorized as a “gaming comic”, which is fine and understandable. When asked directly though, I describe Ctrl+Alt+Del as a “gamer comic” or “a comic about gamers”. Semantics, perhaps, but an important distinction for me. While the strip has always and will always have its foundation firmly rooted in gaming, it’s not the only topic I want to tell jokes and stories about.

Telling different stories, switching back and forth between storylines and one-shots, and not restricting myself to one genre/categorization is what keeps me interested in creating the comic. I can spend a few weeks telling a story, and then when it ends, rather then having to launch into another story arc, I can do a bunch of one-shots about, well, whatever I feel like. What’s in the news, what new games I’m playing, silly stuff, movies, anything. Then I get recharged and start itching to tell another story, and so it goes, back and forth. None of it is “filler”, it’s all as much a part of what makes up Ctrl+Alt+Del as anything else.

Same thing with the non-game-related story arcs. The characters in the strip are gamers, and so they have a pbumion for video games, and a lot of what they do and talk about focuses around games. But being a gamer is not the only thing that makes up a person’s life, and there are a lot of experiences people go through whether they’re a gamer or not. That’s why I don’t love the “gaming comic” categorization, because it gives the impression that video games are the only topic that belongs. I can’t argue with the categorization, because there is clearly a very heavy video game theme in the comic, but I also don’t have to restrict myself to the categorization either, if that makes sense.

On the other hand, I’m sure the people who were complaining “Waiter, there’s some plot in my gaming comic!” already left at the beginning of the newspost.

Another one I heard a few months ago was “If they have a baby then the comic strip will become all about parenting and not gaming/It will be BabyFest 24/7Ethan will get totally serious and grown up!”

If a baby was introduced to the strip, Ctrl+Alt+Del would not suddenly convert into a parenting comic strip, with changing diapers every other strip, etc. This is a comic, and I don’t need to show every mundane detail of these characters’ lives. They are rarely seen eating, and I’ve never shown them going to the bathroom. Do you think that they just never ****? Of course not. It’s just naturally bumumed that some everyday stuff goes on around whatever is shown in the comic. Same thing with a baby (Yes, I’m comparing parenting to ****ting. Can you tell I’m not a Dad?). There would of course be some baby-centric storylines now and then, but nothing says it has to take over the whole strip.

Becoming a parent changes people, without a doubt. But it doesn’t necessarily change people into responsible, uptight working stiffs with no sense of humor. Especially in comicstripland. If Ethan became a father, there would be some changes, some forced growth. But he’d still be Ethan.

Here’s one I think I heard mentioned a while back, and that I anticipate being mentioned: “Tim will never do a miscarriage because then the comic strip will become all sad and depressing”.

Again, I disagree. A miscarriage is definitely not a joke, and I have no intention of making light of it. And it can be a tough and emotional thing for couples to go through, speaking from personal experience. And I know that it’s often much harder on the woman than on the man. However, I also know that it doesn’t necessarily turn you into a sad, depressed sack of tears for the rest of your life. People can move past it, and heal.

This falls in with what I was just saying above. Yes, a miscarriage is a very sad occurance. But nothing dictates that I now need to follow Ethan and Lilah through every second of their sad emotions, putting us right in the middle of it where, yes, it would be a bit depressing. There are a number of supporting characters in the strip through which I can tell the story, or I could break away completely with some one-shots and come back to join the characters post-ground-zero, when the pain isn’t so fresh, to show how they handle it.

Now I’m sure some of you are wondering what my motivations were for this particular story path.

As I’ve said in the past, the grand plan for the comic and its characters has been written for years. I knew that (and how) Ethan was going to propose to Lilah when I introduced her into the comic. I knew when he proposed that shortly before the wedding Lilah was going to get pregnant and then miscarry, and I had to wait two years to write it. I know what happens next, and I know how they handle it. I know what happens even further down the line. I know what Scott is doing in his room. I know who moves out and when. I know who dies and who doesn’t die. And I know that, through all of it, Ethan is still Ethan, Lilah is still Lilah, and Lucas is still Lucas, and they are all still gamers.

And more importantly, I know that I have a storyline that can keep the comic going for a long, long time, and most importantly, keep me anxious to write the next part for you. Because for me, there needs to be more there than just playing games. The characters and their lives need to be interesting enough that I want to keep writing about them while they play the games.

So in part, this just serves to set up the next part of the story. On a base level, it’s just a good twist. Conflict makes for interesting story.

On a deeper level, I really have a desire to stress test Ethan and Lilah’s relationship, to see if there is really something there that would keep them together despite Ethan’s antics, and I decided that this was the best way to go about it. I know from personal experience what it can do to a relationship. Some many years ago, long before I started the comic, I was in a relationship and we suffered a miscarriage. Now, this relationship was toxic to begin with and doomed to fail regardless, so that the miscarriage was the straw that broke the camel’s back came as no surprise. It was a pregnancy neither of us wanted in the first place, so the event didn’t effect me nearly as much as it would, say, a couple who was trying for a child. Still, I saw the emotions it can bring up first hand, and I saw how it could truly hurt someone. It’s a tough thing to handle because it’s nobody’s fault. There’s nobody you can blame.

It can cause a rift in a relationship without someone having to be the “bad guy”, as in infidelity or lying. And I wanted to see if and how Ethan and Lilah’s relationship could weather it.

And also… I wanted to see if I could write it. If I could pull it off. Call it creative curiosity, I guess.

So, that’s all I really have to say on the subject. Read on, or don’t, that’s your call.

Death Mercha-
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“Pain in the ASCII”

TSB Egomaniacs Posted:

Something about how their opinions mean everything, blah blah blah.

How pigheaded can you get? You’ll find tons of people that say something sucks and more that say it doesn’t and usually the majority is right, alongside you have no statistics to prove any of your “Oh this is widely accepted as ****” statements so just because you and your ten internet friends think so doesn’t qualify as “widely” further to the point no one will go out of their way to read/watch something they consider bad, thats just common sense, do you turn on TV and purposely look for something you find bad? I doubt it.

Oh, and just a PS, I’ve never read any Ctrl Alt Delete before but I heard things and was going to eventually so I listed it, but I’m gonna defend it anyway.

TeeKayEff

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[Team Shortbus]

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“Problem Child IV”

Death Merchant Posted:

How pigheaded can you get? You’ll find tons of people that say something sucks and more that say it doesn’t and usually the majority is right, alongside you have no statistics to prove any of your “Oh this is widely accepted as ****” statements so just because you and your ten internet friends think so doesn’t qualify as “widely” further to the point no one will go out of their way to read/watch something they consider bad, thats just common sense, do you turn on TV and purposely look for something you find bad? I doubt it.

What point are you trying to prove here because it sounds like you’re just rambling on in a fit of internet rage.

DeadMcMahon

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“Gloomy Gus”

Jesus, lay off of him. CAD is a good comic.

BirdofPrey

Avatar: 2037 Sun May 10 02:46:48 -0400 2009
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[Team Shortbus]

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I lick her up afterwards (After her great times session too! Yum!)

lmao

Death Mercha-
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Level 10 Troll

“Pain in the ASCII”

TeeKayEff Posted:

What point are you trying to prove here because it sounds like you’re just rambling on in a fit of internet rage.

I hope you’re kidding, especially after the length you put into your post.

Getting angry at text is pretty stupid, the only point I was making is you aren’t always right, I figure thats a life lesson everyone needs to learn at some point.

Biff Weasley

Avatar: 2174 Wed Nov 05 00:04:24 -0500 2008
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Level 19 Troll

bumhead

CAD sucks bum

I second The Book of Biff Log in to see images!

o0-M00N_KriK-
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[Team Shortbus]

Level 35 Camwhore

“Legs Wide Open”

Death Merchant Posted:

I’ve never read any Ctrl Alt Delete before but I’m gonna defend it anyway.

good arguementLog in to see images!

Tesfan

Avatar: 17396 2011-07-31 06:49:56 -0400
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[Team Shortbus]

Level 35 Troll

Sucks **** through a straw in the face of convention

Death Merchant Posted:

Getting angry at text is pretty stupid, the only point I was making is you aren’t always right, I figure thats a life lesson everyone needs to learn at some point.

ok i don’t really know who you are but from the countless arguments you’ve gotten into with TSB i figure you aren’t really in a place to say that lololololo

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