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If God doesn't exist..Hobart Bliggity Posted:
Build a strawman and burn it down.
Hobart Bliggity Posted:
Because critical thinking is important, and when you believe the omnipotent creator of the universe wants you to do something, no matter how terrible, you’re likely to go ahead and do it. For more, read Earth history.
Hobart Bliggity Posted:
Yes, it is.
Hobart Bliggity Posted:
I agree.
Hobart Bliggity Posted:
Fixed that for you. (view post) |
09/04/2009 | |
If God doesn't exist..I’ll take these in reverse order.
MC Banhammer Posted:
This bumumes the universe had a beginning, and that it needed a cause, and that at one time, it did not exist. Of course, time only came into existence with the universe, so the question is invalid to begin with.
MC Banhammer Posted:
MC Banhammer Posted:
Since atheism is a lack of belief in any god, I respectfully suggest that you’re an atheist. It doesn’t speak to knowledge – I don’t know there is no god – but I do not believe in any gods. Therefore, I am an atheist.
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09/04/2009 | |
If God doesn't exist..MC Banhammer Posted:
I can respect that. I take it your beliefs involve some sort of creator? Something like deism, at the very least?
I’d be interested to know why you believe what you believe. The onus is not on me to disprove God, it’s on believers to prove what they believe is true. See Russell’s Teapot for more.
But bumuming the burden of proof is on me, what sort of shatter-proof argument would be acceptable? Only I can’t imagine what I could say to disprove the existence of something that supposedly exists outside of time and space. (view post) |
09/04/2009 | |
If God doesn't exist..MC Banhammer Posted:
You’re half right. There’s no evidence for a creator, so unfortunately, all you’ve done is disagree without providing another option.
EDIT: I just want to make sure I’m in the right section of Flamebate… this is the civil discussion area, isn’t it? Constructive and respectful? Just checking. MCB, this was not directed at you, I just didn’t want to make another post to say this. (view post) |
09/04/2009 | |
If God doesn't exist..Hobart Bliggity Posted:
Yes. (view post) |
09/04/2009 | |
If God doesn't exist..Hobart Bliggity Posted: |
09/04/2009 | |
If God doesn't exist..Most of what I’d like to to say has already been said here, so this will likely be short.
OverclockedJesus and man-man put it succinctly. “Who made the universe” begs the question, and it’s illogical to stop an infinite regress by making up something out of whole cloth.
Shii, you attempt to solve this problem by defining something outside of nature, which is irrational on the very face of it. As there is nothing outside nature which has even approached demonstrability, let alone a “supernatural creator” to whom one might ascribe a number of other characteristics, it is wholly unscientific to bumume such a thing exists. We do, however, know that the universe exists – so with the data we’ve got at hand, it makes the most sense to bumume that it has always been around and always will be.
Finally, there was no “before” the universe, because the universe exists in no less than four dimensions. I’m talking about time, here. To say something like “before” the universe or “after” the universe is a non-sequitur of the very worst kind, in the same way “outside” or “past” the universe is absurd.
These questions boil down, ultimately, to faith. Faith is an unsubstantiated belief; something which one holds to be true in spite of a lack of evidence. There is evidence for the universe, clearly, and so it behooves us not to make things up which would violate all known laws of physics. We leave that to quantum mechanics.
QED.
If I’ve screwed something up, it’s the beer talking, and I hope someone will correct me. It’s just that I find first cause arguments to be so ridiculous as to be unworthy of extensive thought. (view post) |
09/04/2009 | |
***OFFICIAL "HAPPY BIRTHDAY FORUMWARZ" THREAD*** (post for peen)IHOCOTC – International House of Corn on the Cob
“Come on down, don’t be such a fabulous person!”
Also, happy birthday to fwz. (view post) |
09/04/2009 | |
ITT: Post Your male reproductive organ or Vagbaou30 Posted: |
04/21/2009 | |
THIS IS A ****ING EASY AND FUNNY PACE TO STROLL HAVE FUNConnecting to server… Looking for someone you can chat with. Hang on. You’re now chatting with a random stranger. Say hi! You: forumwarz Stranger: Hiya Stranger: Wat You: say it back Stranger: If I refuse? You: i’ll d/c Stranger: Kay You: say it back You: forumwarz Stranger: Well, don’t just threaten to d/c and not follow through Stranger: Pansy You: i’ll do it Stranger: We won’t know till you go You: you haven’t refused yet. You: i’ve got all the time in the internet. Stranger: I’m certainly not agreeing You: forumwarz You: do it Stranger: This is now about the principle of the matter Stranger: I won’t be coerced You: what if you say something, and i say it back? Stranger: Are we bargaining here? You: and then i’ll say forumwarz, and you say it back You: that’s fair, right? You: i want to be fair. Stranger: Well alright Stranger: You have a deal You: can i say forumwarz first? You: i promise to follow through. You: you have my word. Stranger: Whatev. Go for it You: okay You: here we go: You: forumwarz Stranger: forumwarz You: nice!!! You: okay, your turn. Stranger: Say b9 You: b9 Stranger: Bening… maybe ten Stranger: Benign* You: i don’t get it. Stranger: Me neither Stranger: Anyway, are you satisfied? You: fully. You: are we done here? Stranger: I believe so You: nice. Stranger: Pleasure doing business You: likewise. Your conversational partner has disconnected.
Perfect. (view post) |
03/31/2009 | |
THIS IS A ****ING EASY AND FUNNY PACE TO STROLL HAVE FUNYou’re now chatting with a random stranger. Say hi! You: forumwarz You: say it back Your conversational partner has disconnected.
almost… (view post) |
03/31/2009 | |
THIS IS A ****ING EASY AND FUNNY PACE TO STROLL HAVE FUNYou’re now chatting with a random stranger. Say hi! You: forumwarz Your conversational partner has disconnected. (view post) |
03/31/2009 | |
THIS IS A ****ING EASY AND FUNNY PACE TO STROLL HAVE FUNYou’re now chatting with a random stranger. Say hi! You: *chan? Your conversational partner has disconnected. (view post) |
03/31/2009 | |
THIS IS A ****ING EASY AND FUNNY PACE TO STROLL HAVE FUN^ lol (view post) |
03/30/2009 | |
ITT: We Prove Our ManlinessI’d be more into this thread if I didn’t shave my body hair regularly using a variety of methods.
I’m pretty hairy.
Not that you’d know it by looking at me.
Because of my grooming.
Look at my sig (view post) |
03/29/2009 | |
ITT: NJP makes sign pics for youI would like a sign, please. I intend to use it in my sig (view post) |
03/28/2009 | |
Raepdog Whores Out Art/Signs To You!Oh, Raepdog. Please make me a sign. (view post) |
03/26/2009 | |
test postI don’t get it, is this one of those fun things that people do to bond and form long-lasting friendships? Sounds pretty gay. (view post) |
03/25/2009 | |
We're moving (again!)New server. This feels good. This feels right (view post) |
03/23/2009 | |
Sup I'm new here?PipeCreep is Creep’s gay lover imo. POIDH (view post) |
03/23/2009 |